i am not sure about bikes, but for cars, the invoice price is easy to find, just get ahold of the invoice price through searching, and then figure that the dealer gets volume discounts, sales discounts and promotional discounts from that number, that will give you a good base for negotiation.
-WHEELMAN
for instance, the sticker price on my car was 27 410, the invoice was 25xxx, i paid 24 500 otd with extended waranty, and everyone was happy
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