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[OB_Dr Busa]

...sorry that should be wait 'til -00...ZZzzz

 

[OB_ZX-12]

They just released the Busa so I think it is a little early to know how well it will race. If you look at the specs and design of the motor there is allot of room for modifications and improvements on what is already a sick motor. In allot of ways the motor reminds me of the GS big bore series and those motors are still impressive twenty years later. The aftermarket will square away the weight and suspension to make it competitive on the track.

 

[OB_Dr Busa]

A good start is to shave off some weight, for example the sidestand is about 500lbs. Then the exhaust, i'm getting a Yoshi RS-3 full system from Accwhse, $481.95, ship it to my sister in Miami and then my father will take it with him on the plane. The same system would costs around $1100 here (i'm a little socialist remember).

 

[OB_ZX-12]

I tend to think that the people taking this bike to the track are going to do a little more than the sidestand and the pipes.

I was talking about when the aftermarket gets ahold of it and starts playing with carbon fibor, titanium, magnisium and the latest wonder metal berylluim. That is when we will see what this thing can do. I think this motor is going to be real intersting at the drag strip though. Wait till the christmas tree people start to figure out where the power is in the motor. If you look at the old posts people are getting impressive gains just playing around with the mapping.

You are a lucky little socialist to have daddy flying around just for a pipe. Why not have sis send it over UPS?


[This message has been edited by ZX-12 (edited 19 September 1999).]

 

[OB_Dr Busa]

UPS costs about $150 to get it here and i have relatives flying over there all the time so there is really no problem getting stuff. Beryllium ? I have golfclubs with bryllium-copper. Is golf considered so hightech that the same materials is being used in motorracing ?

Do you ride hard in general in the US ? I have a friend who is servicemanager for Triumph here in Sweden and he has had contact with some americans. One of them said that 2 things in particular surprised him. The first thing was that the swedes ride so hard, the other that the ladies don't shave their legs very often (!) I can't verify the first but the second surprised me !

 

[OB_ZX-12]

Your old man is the better value then.

As for Beryllium look it up on the web or read Kevin Cameron's article about it in the July 1999 issue of cycle world. I would scan and post it but I am at home with a laptop. It is a good article he notes specific tolerances, melting points and specific parts for motorcycles. He is a good writer he can get a little technical but you can learn allot.

As for riding hard? It depends on the person, location and bike to say anything else would be a generalization.

 

[OB_Dirty Pete]

Hey beryllium guys, remember one thing.

Unless you are a competitive Superbike rider, the bike you ride on the track is almost irrelevant.

I've killed lots of dealership racers on the track on my Busa, and I've also been killed by a 125 GP bike in the hands of a great rider. On a long track...Mosport.

I've been killed on the track by a 1200 Bandit, a BMW boxer, and all kinds of embarrassing old clunky bikes.

Fortunately, never by a Harley.

I lap Mosport (1:41) within about 10 seconds of current superbikes (1:28 qualifying, 1:31 racing) on my all-but-stock Busa. All the beryllium, carbon fiber, titanium and billet pieces in the world are not going to improve my times one tenth.

A fast rider can beat me on a Harley 750 flat tracker on my best day.

Stay humble. Beryllium is no substitute for riding skill.

 

[OB_ZX-12]

Don't worry pete I just learned how to spell the word three months ago.

 

[OB_Dr Busa]

Since you're into schoolwork and stuff visit my school at www.kth.se

 

[OB_ZX-12]

Are you Industrial Management or Engineering?

 

[OB_Dr Busa]

Civil Engineering.

 

[OB_Dr Busa]

ZX-12 do you have the game Delta Force on your computer so we can play online ? I will kick your ass !!!

 

[OB_Dirty Pete]

Look men I'm embarrassed to see the title of this thread against my name.

Could we just start a new thread, maybe a Scandinavia vs America sewing contest, and let this one fall down the list where it belongs?

I don't want any more kids seeing this title on their Dad's computer.

 

[OB_Dr Busa]

Hey, Pete you just don't want you wife to see this that's why you want this one to drop down the list. True ?

 

[OB_Dirty Pete]

Sorry your kid saw the foul language. I never thought of that.

I have deleted all my trash talk and I'm not going to get sucked into it again.

I wish I could delete the title I put on this topic.

Frank, I can't say I'm not going to contribute when I feel I have something to say. There actually are SOME threads I leave alone...not many, but some.

Yeah Todd the tx25 200...practising for the drags I was supposed to go to today but which I thought were off last night but I just got a call from Malcolm saying he's going right this minute but now I can't go because I made other plans.

Dang. Now I'll be barbecuing hamburgers with my brother-in-law instead of cooking tires with Malcolm.

Malcolm is working on his short times and will e-mail me his results tonight. At least I'll get some vicarious pleasure out of that.

The tire tore up much faster than I thought it would...usable for a couple of days.. but I'm still replacing it with the same tire. I think the pavement I practised on was too rough. Tire just got gouged up.

By the way the tx25 was wearing considerably better in "normal" use than either the OE tire or the ME Z3 did.


[This message has been edited by Dirty Pete (edited 19 September 1999).]

 

[OB_ZX-12]

You want us to play "Delta Force"? I don't have that game. I know another game though it is called choke yourself. Now go stand in the corner till I tell you to stop.

 

[sherm]

Thank you Frank Adams.

 

[OB_ZX-12]

Honestley Pete I would like to cut the crap and talk bikes too. I came on here being an ass but I censor my language and the posts that were out of hand and I don't threaten people. You guys actually egg on people who act like retards. Before you all snap I agree that I started the flaming, but some of you guys take this whole thing way too personally.

 

[OB_Dr Busa]

....sorry guys i just wanted to put this one on top again.

 

[OB_KawAbuser]

Dirty Pete, come on now you have to feel the love here. Your pure unbiased Canadian commentary has become a way of lif here.

Let the ZX12 roll down the street after all we do need some one to ride with, it will be interesting to find out what niche it will fill. The Hayabusa has cut some serious ground in six months, and our aftermarket is just starting to begin. Remember the GS1100 motor, that still is a viable hunk of motor even today almost twenty years later. The GSX1300R motor is the future for Suzuki, and I doubt they have sold us short.

GS1000/1100 vs Z1-900/KZ1000 its the same old thing just twenty years later. Competition improves the breed, or we would be stuck with a water buffalo.

Poor ZX12 cleaning his chain, at Baylor the do the sex change in a sterile operating room, you really should not attempt these procedures in the garage. Say hi to Fitch!