Talk to me about boost controllers

[Dnyce]

Mac valves, fueltech boost valve, fueltech Or other brand injector block and why

 

[202mphbusa]

 

[202mphbusa]

FWIW
AMS1000 here and has worked flawlessly for me
When I remember to turn it on
AND when I remember to air up the system

 

[airborneuph]

AMS 1000 here too .. Needed the Gen II sensor to work well, but it works ..

 

[Dnyce]

I guess I mean more on the mechanic side, maybe boost controller wasn’t the right term. Not the ecu or “brain” but the actual solenoids or injectors and air supply, who uses co2, How did you plumb your wastegate, all that.
Everything on YouTube is car related, I just wanted some bike guys opinions

 

[nitrousjunkie]

Cant go wrong with AMS but most of the good ECU's out there now will do it,I'd look at Max,Holley,Fueltech they will all do it and control everything else

 

[Dnyce]

Cant go wrong with AMS but most of the good ECU's out there now will do it,I'd look at Max,Holley,Fueltech they will all do it and control everything else

Yea I know that, I’m referring to the hard components not the software. So I misspoke when I said controller I guess.

 

[202mphbusa]

Does the AMS2000 add co2 air to the lift port? as well as the assist port?

 

[202mphbusa]

18:30 in he talks about the boost controller controlling the lift port

 

[Dnyce]

Yea I watched that one too, they show aems 3 way valve, basically a Mac valve

What are YOU all using?

 

[Tofy92]

I’m using a Maxx Ecu with co2 boost control , running increase and decrease solenoids . The co2 is regulated down by Carolina cycles regulators to the shifter and increase solenoid.

I use time based boost control which is activated by clutch lever switch release. It is extremely acurate.

The benefit with the Maxx is it has a built in map sensor also. And if you buy the kit it comes with the lambda probe also.

 

[202mphbusa]

AMS1000 with the two two port solenoids to the Assist port
Swingarm air ~100 psi

 

[TonyM995]

I’m not turbo yet nor is there a turbo kit for my bike yet. I bought the dual injector block because that’s what Liguori had in his turbo package. I thought it was going to be configured like a 4 port solenoid but it’s not.

The dual injector block seems to function the same as the dual valve solenoid that FT and NLR use.

It seems like any of the solenoids you have listed would be strong enough to put 40 psi on the dome. What I would have hoped the dual injector block provides is accurate and fine tune adjustability. Like most things I do, that’s probably not necessary. My gut instinct is these options will give the same result.

Doug mentions that NLR was the first to use c02 for boost control in this video. I didn’t know that. I’m going to put a c02 bottle in the bike until I get a swingarm. Which is not exactly related but

 

[TonyM995]

Has anyone had issues with Boost control that caused them to change and use something else?

I’m also curious if bike guys have struggled with boost control for creating boost quickly or controlling the amount of boost made?

 

[202mphbusa]

Has anyone had issues with Boost control that caused them to change and use something else?

I’m also curious if bike guys have struggled with boost control for creating boost quickly or controlling the amount of boost made?

Hahaha. How long of a thread do you want this to be? I can only think of two combo’s I haven’t tried

 

[202mphbusa]

Be clear
CO2 or swingarm/air shifter air would essensially be the same ~60-120 PSI
CO2 would have more volume for street/ air leak situation

 

[TonyM995]

Hahaha. How long of a thread do you want this to be? I can only think of two combo’s I haven’t tried

Hahaha Hey it’s a chat board right? Let’s chat- I’m curious to hear all of them. Or at least the most helpful things to know.

I’ve read through a lot of the old turbo threads here and they have left me wanting more information.

Then again one of my friends told me I jump too deep into the tech of things but that’s what I like.

 

[13B-RX3]

Not on a bike, but I switched from a 3 port to a 4 port on my car. I couldn't get a wide enough boost range on the 3 port without a spring change (PITA). On the 4 port I have run from 12PSI to 56PSI with 10lb gate springs and manifold pressure. I do boost by time and need to launch the car at a relatively low boost.

 

[202mphbusa]

My first "boost controller"
Air line off plenum thru regulator and a relay that I wired into a latching circuit
On 1-2 air shift air would get routed thru regulator to assist port
then eventually switched to Swingarm air

Then a modified GPS switch to switch thru 6 regulators for six levels of boost

 

[4g63rc]

AMS 2000 Co2 control cant go wrong.!!! Unless you forget to turn it on : )