EV vehicles

[Bumblebee]

Ever since I found and posted that video now other videos come up from this person.....all kinds of crazy videos of self powered TVs and other such things.......

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Is this the longest thread in history?

[jellyrug]

Is this the longest thread in history?

Let’s see how fast we can get to 3,000 posts.
Trump just bought a Tesla. True story.

[Bumblebee]

Let’s see how fast we can get to 3,000 posts.
Trump just bought a Tesla. True story.

It surprises me that Trump didn't purchase a few for people he knows......seeing as he probably doesn't even have a driver's license as he has always had a chauffeur.

If this is the biggest news feed of today, we might as well all shut off all our devices and go outside.

[jellyrug]

It surprises me that Trump didn't purchase a few for people he knows......seeing as he probably doesn't even have a driver's license as he has always had a chauffeur.

If this is the biggest news feed of today, we might as well all shut off all our devices and go outside.

LOL, just trying to keep your thread going.
You will like this one, I think.

https://www.barrons.com/articles/ev-stock-price-bubble-lesson-3aa98406?mod=RTA

[Bumblebee]

Speaking of EVs.....I ran into a person I know when I was out doing an errand and he was driving a new Toyota Highlander hybrid.....

My neighbor also has one and they love it.......

This guy leased his Tesla, ended the lease and got the Toyota, he said his parents did the same thing but got a RAV4 hybrid instead.

[jellyrug]

Speaking of EVs.....I ran into a person I know when I was out doing an errand and he was driving a new Toyota Highlander hybrid.....

My neighbor also has one and they love it.......

This guy leased his Tesla, ended the lease and got the Toyota, he said his parents did the same thing but got a RAV4 hybrid instead.

Actually the new Prius looks pretty cool (to me) and it is not bad in the performance area.
I might end up getting one later in the year. Perhaps they should change the name?

[Bumblebee]

LOL, just trying to keep your thread going.
You will like this one, I think.

https://www.barrons.com/articles/ev-stock-price-bubble-lesson-3aa98406?mod=RTA

......and I appreciate that.....

Upon opening the link, it says I need a subscription but I do get the gist of the article....

Something I think I have always stood on in this entire thread is that EVs aren't quite yet viable as the primary mainstream source of transportation for various reasons.......

I've always maintained that with time and lots more development, they have potential.....one of the biggest hurtles in my opinion, is the lack of national recharging stations and the ability to create them at this time....we just don't have the copper resources to create all the high power voltage feeds for millions upon millions of recharging stations....

This is why hybrids make more sense....they still burn fuel but a lot less and if we converted them all to a clean diesel, they would burn even less.

My son who has a Hyundai Santa Fe plug in hybrid (works on 110V) says he can go up to a month without having to fuel it as he gets around 70 kms on EV mode so for planned errands and short commutes he can run full EV.

That to me makes sense, especially if people modify their driving behavior so they plan their trips better.....sometimes I see the same car from my street go by my house 10 times a day doing errands and what have you. If that car did one trip on EV mode, it would expend zero fuel.

[Bumblebee]

Actually the new Prius looks pretty cool (to me) and it is not bad in the performance area.
I might end up getting one later in the year. Perhaps they should change the name?

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....I harken back to the old Prius and how overly annoying that body shape was.....

This is a far superior car in appearance and I've heard nothing but good about them....

That to me is a fine choice.

[Bumblebee]

While we are on the subject of pick up trucks....

One of my former colleagues is soon going to be picking up his Raptor R.....

This will be his third Raptor....

He got his first one in 2017 as a stolen recovery....he was able to get it at a better price than used because of that....all he had to do was pay the difference for damages....and it wasn't very much......he then traded that for a 2022 Raptor......then as soon as the R was announced, he put himself on that list.....over a year and a half later, he was called and said there is an R coming in if he wanted it.....I think he said he gets in in April sometime....

He also had his name in for a Tundra TRD Capstone but decided against getting that one....

I can only imagine the R truck as his current Raptor is one serious machine........I can only imagine the price tag that comes with it.....

I seriously courted the idea of getting a Ram Rebel GT there for a little while but couldn't justify getting a new truck with as little driving as I do these days....it would just be sitting and sitting even more in the summer.....they are pretty sweet though.......

I really wanted a TRX but at $150K I wasn't going to get one for the same reasons....sitting too much......and sought after by thieves......

[Zerks]

OOOH, a modern BMW or Merc.. He is in for a world of pain..

Side note... many BMW and Mercedes owners have switched to Hyundai Genesis models and like the value and performance for the money spent.

[Zerks]

It surprises me that Trump didn't purchase a few for people he knows......seeing as he probably doesn't even have a driver's license as he has always had a chauffeur.

If this is the biggest news feed of today, we might as well all shut off all our devices and go outside.

Trump said the other day he loves cars and loves to drive them... I think he even has a collection of some special cars. The red Tesla he just bought will be used by White House staff members around the DC area for business.

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[Red05]

Side note... many BMW and Mercedes owners have switched to Hyundai Genesis models and like the value and performance for the money spent.

You should have a slash or an ‘or’ between Hyundai and Genesis. They are like Toyota and Lexus.
Different cars by the same company since 2016.

[ottafish]

While we are on the subject of pick up trucks....

One of my former colleagues is soon going to be picking up his Raptor R.....

This will be his third Raptor....

He got his first one in 2017 as a stolen recovery....he was able to get it at a better price than used because of that....all he had to do was pay the difference for damages....and it wasn't very much......he then traded that for a 2022 Raptor......then as soon as the R was announced, he put himself on that list.....over a year and a half later, he was called and said there is an R coming in if he wanted it.....I think he said he gets in in April sometime....

He also had his name in for a Tundra TRD Capstone but decided against getting that one....

I can only imagine the R truck as his current Raptor is one serious machine........I can only imagine the price tag that comes with it.....

I seriously courted the idea of getting a Ram Rebel GT there for a little while but couldn't justify getting a new truck with as little driving as I do these days....it would just be sitting and sitting even more in the summer.....they are pretty sweet though.......

I really wanted a TRX but at $150K I wasn't going to get one for the same reasons....sitting too much......and sought after by thieves......

Had to go and google what a Raptor R is ...

Oh my ....

[Zerks]

You should have a slash or an ‘or’ between Hyundai and Genesis. They are like Toyota and Lexus.
Different cars by the same company since 2016.

Thank you for the grammatical correction.... people might not have understood what I was saying...

Here is one for you... who invented a variable cam lift engine?

[Bumblebee]

Trump said the other day he loves cars and loves to drive them... I think he even has a collection of some special cars. The red Tesla he just bought will be used by White House staff members around the DC area for business.

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Good for him......a billionaire playboy having a vast car collection? Who'd have thought that could happen......

[Oz22]

Good for him......a billionaire playboy having a vast car collection? Who'd have thought that could happen......

And he can't drive them on public roads. I guess he'll have to move over by the Nurburgring track, and at only 30 Euro a lap he could buy it out for a private morning's fun.

I see Tesla's stock price is down 50%, what a joke, the future of driving? Like all bubble stocks it's destined for the bankrupts court and that will piss off a lot of true believers. Another bigger fantasy is the autonomous driving revolution. A real non-starter but millions, hundreds of millions probably believed it would come to pass.

I remember many years ago stopping at a T-junction on a major 4 lane divided road, waiting for a gap to pull out. It entailed crossing the oncoming traffic from one direction then merging with the traffic coming down the other side. There was no "merging" lane either. The only way to cross in less than 20 minutes was to time it so that as you pulled out there was a gap in the near-side traffic and one about to appear on the far side. But the gap on the far side wasn't there yet, there were still cars almost at the junction. You crossed over, accelerating toward the cars and then slipped in behind them as they passed. It was all critical timing and your brain had to evaluate the speeds and positions of all these cars, and watch for indicators in case one car was going to change lanes. An AI (so called) would never commit to such a maneuver. It would see those cars coming on the other side and wait for them to pass, but by then the other cars coming down in the near lanes would be on top of you.

I have had to take some very radical actions to avoid crashes in my day, even breaking the law, crossing double lines etc. An autonomous car will simply slam the brakes on and hope for the best.

[Red05]

Here is one for you... who invented a variable cam lift engine?

Without looking it up I’d say one of the German makers. By the way, the cams actuate it, but it’s the valves that actually lift.
Oh gosh, I’m being an a$$ again. Blame it on jellyrug. He made me this way.

[Bumblebee]

And he can't drive them on public roads. I guess he'll have to move over by the Nurburgring track, and at only 30 Euro a lap he could buy it out for a private morning's fun.

I see Tesla's stock price is down 50%, what a joke, the future of driving? Like all bubble stocks it's destined for the bankrupts court and that will piss off a lot of true believers. Another bigger fantasy is the autonomous driving revolution. A real non-starter but millions, hundreds of millions probably believed it would come to pass.

I remember many years ago stopping at a T-junction on a major 4 lane divided road, waiting for a gap to pull out. It entailed crossing the oncoming traffic from one direction then merging with the traffic coming down the other side. There was no "merging" lane either. The only way to cross in less than 20 minutes was to time it so that as you pulled out there was a gap in the near-side traffic and one about to appear on the far side. But the gap on the far side wasn't there yet, there were still cars almost at the junction. You crossed over, accelerating toward the cars and then slipped in behind them as they passed. It was all critical timing and your brain had to evaluate the speeds and positions of all these cars, and watch for indicators in case one car was going to change lanes. An AI (so called) would never commit to such a maneuver. It would see those cars coming on the other side and wait for them to pass, but by then the other cars coming down in the near lanes would be on top of you.

I have had to take some very radical actions to avoid crashes in my day, even breaking the law, crossing double lines etc. An autonomous car will simply slam the brakes on and hope for the best.

Sounds like that hiway needed an overpass......

But yes, there is some sort of utopian dream of self driving cars everywhere and taking the human equation out of it.

We all know that is a pipe dream for many generations down the road....

[Oz22]

Sounds like that hiway needed an overpass......

But yes, there is some sort of utopian dream of self driving cars everywhere and taking the human equation out of it.

We all know that is a pipe dream for many generations down the road....

It's just a minor road coming onto a main suburban road.

A pipe dream for generations down the road, or for Never. The problem is capital, wealth, and in our world that means OIL. Even the total cornucopians believe the oil supply will be gone in the decades to come, only dregs, reserved for the military, for the wealthy and the politicians I assume. The great hope is that we crack some miracle like fusion but it's just a hope. There is every chance we revert to a low energy lifestyle like every other major civilization before ours. Our advanced culture vanishing like the Egyptians that built the pyramids, the Roman's that built a vast network of aqueducts and roads, massive sports stadiums and civic buildings. I know it's hard to accept but it's happened before as I cited. Happened every time an advanced culture ran out of free energy. Slaves, loot, or oil, Gas and uranium.

It will take a while though, but if you look around your own nation you can see the beginnings of it can't you. We aren't advancing anymore, were declining, from the value of a pension to the roads to the cost of food.