Steelers quarterback ben roethlisberger

If there is anyone on this forum that is not blown away by the fact Ben was not wearing a helmet, I would be surprised. The guy is in the hospital with some serious injuries, and I would like to see us focus as a group on the best wishes for a fast recovery, rather than a bashing for not wearing his gear. What can we do as a group to show him we care about our busa bro? Never can tell, he may have posted here before!
you have got to be kidding me, we are talking about a multi millionairre who apparently has no sense at all. And you want to know what we can do for him. I am sorry but that is just insanity. This individual obviously has all the means in the world to try to prevent the dangers that come with the hobby we all have chosen. Yet he CHOOSES not to wear minimal protection.

If this was anyone else he would be getting called every squidly name in the book. I am sorry but in my book this situation falls into an even worse category than a average ordinary squid, because he has so much to loose and the means to buy every ounce of protection out there.

I am sorry if this comes across as being insensative, but man i just don't get the poor ben attitude as many others have been posting. Just my opinion.
It's not the poor Ben thing at all. I have no more or no less concern for Ben, than any other rider. I would not dispute what you said about wearing gear. If you see me when I'm riding, I look like a power ranger. If they make it, I'm wearing it. I'm also old enough to have been taught the hard lessons associated with my sport. If you think it's a Steelers thing, no way, I'm a Chiefs fan, hate the Steelers. My point is, I have compation for any rider who goes down, on any type of bike. You and I know to ride with gear, but there is not one owner that rides a busa, that has not performed some squidley act on his bike, or at the least, some dangerouse manouver! Do we deserve any less compation when we go down bacause of it? I don't think so.
Sorry Bro... I am just not buying into the whole compassion deal, if he had had gear on then yeah, there would be no end to my compassion, and you are right, most of us have done some squidly things.. but I bet the majority were wearing gear when we were squidly... lets not even take into consideration the fact that he had been asked to wear gear several times and still chose not to.... NFL quarterback, superbowl champion, several million dollar contract... compassion? NO an a$$ kicking? definitly!!!!!!
So let me get this right. You dont give a damn about anyone thats get hurt in an accident if they werent wearing there gear? Yeah he made a bad decision. Lots of people on this board ride without gear on. Are you telling me that you wear full leathers, boots, gloves and a lid to go around the block? I know of quite a few members on this board you are offending because they dont wear a helmet. Keep in mind, as far as we know, Ben wasnt doing ANYTHING legaly wrong. And what does he have to lose thats so much more important than anyone else on this board? Money? Sorry bro. I think my kids are a much bigger incentive to wear my lid than millions of dollars. You argument is like saying we shouldnt want to reach out to any friends that were in a car accident and were injured by not wearing a seatbelt. Hell, at least its mandatory to wear a seatbelt!
Yep, I do wear gear EVERYWHERE I go, if I am just running around the corner as you stated and I don't want to go through the hassle of putting it on I drive my car... remember, most accidents happen within 3 miles of our houses. I only mentioned the things about the superbowl and his $$$ because you would think the things you mentioned like family, kids etc... would be obvious reasons to wear gear... lastly it might have been "illegal" for him NOT to wear gear as it might have been stipulated in his contract which is a legally binding agreement......



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Has anyone been reading the articles coming out of the AP about this? They are painting a picture like this was the bikes fault. That is BS!!
 
All they can talk about is "the Suzuki Hayabusa is the world's fastest production bike" Not saying a word about the woman turning in front of him. How many people have to get hurt or killed before people start seeing motorcycles!! I challenge everyone in here to e-mail any member of the AP they can and tell them to stop bashing the bike and start reporting of the real cause of the accident. The bike had nothing to do with it.
 
making a million dollar man does not become a invincible man...their a$$es are any better than anyone around here...but, the problem is, they don't want to think that way...and I don't think he is going back to play...even if he does, he won't be like he used to be...all, the money is gone cuz of the stupidity...sad story
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I hope he recovers and he has my prayers but I still think he's a dumba$$
 
Ben first off nice bike!  The no helmet thing doesn't bother me he's a grown man and can live the way he wants.  Ben I hope you make a full recovery and I look forward to seeing your new Busa.
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Ben and I have the same bike!
First of all that's a hard lesson learned, why you should always wear a helmet! He'll remeber this for a long time. broken upper & Lower jaw, knocked out his 2 front teeth and broken eye socket, Luckily he will live to ride another day.
But, Gear or noGear it was still that stupid cager's fault!
"Oh.. I didn't see him".... Too bad he didn't smash throuh the wind shield and kiss her!
 
Here's a quote from ESPN.com
"Considering that Roethlisberger wasn't wearing a helmet while riding his 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa, a model that weighs less than 600 pounds but can easily reach 200 miles per hour in a modified state, the Steelers realize how much worse the accident could have been."
 
I'm also old enough to have been taught the hard lessons associated with my sport.[/QUOTE]

That's a very interesting statement... Riding a bike on the streets is not... by any stretch of the imagination... under normal, non-illegal means, a SPORT. You may do it for transportation, or maybe even as recreation. But if it's a "sport" to the rider, then they need to rethink everything about it.
 
I'm sooo mixed about the news.

1.) I hope that Ben makes full recovery. That is a horrible accident that could've costed him his life.

Now, my rant.....
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This guy just won the Superbowl 4 months ago, making millions of dollars a year, has perhaps the best life a professional athlete can have, yet he doesn't want to wear a helmet?

Damnit, this guy is seen as a role model by millions, what kind of message do you think he's sending to children and adults alike? Esp, since he was on a Busa? That it's ok to ride without gear as long as you're not careful? Whatever happened to dress for the ride, and not for the weather?

The other thing that PISSES ME OFF IS THAT THE BUSA GETS MEDIA ATTENTION AGAIN BUT NOT THE POSITIVE TYPE!! Word of the Busa as "the fastest street legal bike" being smeared all over the media is NOT GOOD MEDIA WHATSOEVER. You would think he would have better judgment than that riding such serious piece of equipment as the BUSA. Look for some negative backlash against our rides in the months/years to come just b/c a high profile name such as Roethlisberger gets in a wreck, with a Busa, and NO GEAR or HELMET.

All right, I'll step off my soapbox now.
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By the looks of that impact he was moving at a good pace. I think this is a lesson to learn that you have to ride under controlled speeds while in a residential area. The woman wasn't charged with anything so that should tell you something about who was at fault.
 
By the looks of that impact he was moving at a good pace. I think this is a lesson to learn that you have to ride under controlled speeds while in a residential area. The woman wasn't charged with anything so that should tell you something about who was at fault.
Is the investigation complete?

The intersection in question is usually 35mph, uless traffic slows you down. It is a scary intersection, and VERY tough to turn left in. I see near misses there EVERY day. I could see 35mph causing that damage, and I dont really see a fault. It was an accident and not residential.


As for the helmet nazi's. SUPPORT YOUR FELLOW RIDERS. He knows now what crashing is like, let him lick his wounds. Besides who are we to tell him what he can and can't do? If you came on a helmetless rider crashed and bleeding would you say #### you and drive by, or would you stop and help him? Ben deserves the same respect.


In the end I would like to see him use his fame to promote motorcycle safety and awareness.
 
Chicago Sun-Times columnist Richard Roper had an interesting take in this mornings paper:

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"You're just more free without one." -- Ben Roethlisberger, explaining his aversion to motorcycle helmets, in an ESPN interview, 2005.

"What I say about motorcycles is that concrete is undefeated." -- Roethlisberger's teammate Joey Porter, in the spring of 2006.

It's motorcycle season again in Chicago.

At any given moment from late afternoon until well past midnight, in the Viagra Triangle, you'll see and HEAR an amazing variety of Harleys, BMWs, Suzukis, Kawasakis, Triumphs, Yamahas, Ducatis, Hondas, you name it.

Some of the bikes are beautiful. Even parked, they look fast.

As for the bikers: they're just guys (and women) having fun. They're not "troublemakers" out of some "Wild One" stereotype -- they're professionals who have the money to pay for and maintain some expensive motorcycles. They like to go fast and make noise.


In some cases, a LOT of noise. The acoustics in certain downtown Chicago canyons are such that even if your windows are shut and you live on the 47th floor, you can hear the roar of a pack of bikers who might be blocks away.

Or you'll be at a sidewalk table in front of a trendy restaurant, and a biker across the street will start up his machine -- and it's so loud that conversation is impossible, and every head turns.

Which is probably what the guys are looking for in the first place -- a little bit of attention.

You also see thrill-seeking "Biker Boyz" on I-57 or the Kennedy (not so much the Dan Ryan these days), going over 100 mph while doing stunts and tricks. You can be doing 65 mph in the center lane, and they'll pass you as if you're standing still. (Remember the guy who was clocked doing 160 mph on Lake Shore Drive?)

And they'll do so without wearing helmets.

No fears, no helmet

Same thing with a lot of those bikers who patrol the downtown streets. I'd say at least half aren't wearing helmets.

Every time there's a motorcycle accident involving a high-profile biker such as the Steelers' Super Bowl hero QB, we get a lot of debate about helmet laws.

Illinois is one of only four states without any kind of helmet law - - but 19 states allow riders age 18 and over to ride without helmets, and seven states (including Pennsylvania) allow riders 21 and older to go helmet-free.

Roethlisberger is a motorcycle enthusiast who has a number of bikes, including the Suzuki Hayabusa, billed by its manufacturer as the fastest legal street bike in the world. (That's the one that was mangled in the crash.) He has posed for some "bad-ass" pics on his bike -- the pro quarterback in his bandanna and sunglasses, looking like the sidekick in a Steven Seagal movie circa 1987.

Why not. He's a big kid with some shiny toys, having the time of his life.

Until Monday.

The right to be reckless

Big Ben has ignored the warnings of his coach, and the concerns of the Pittsburgh sports media, who worried that his helmet-free philosophy was an accident waiting to happen, literally.

That doesn't make him an idiot. It means he's like a lot of 24-year- old (and 46-year-old) bikers who believe it's their bike, their brain and their choice. If they want to hit the streets without a helmet, it's nobody's business -- especially the government's.

They're 100 percent right.

There have been a ton of "I told you so" columns and blog entries in the wake of Roethlisberger's accident. Lots of lists of other athletes, such as Jay Williams and Aaron Rowand, who have had crashes. Much talk about studies offering proof that wearing a helmet significantly decreases your chances of sustaining serious head and spinal injuries.

No kidding.

"Roethlisberger wouldn't dream of going onto the football field without his helmet, but he thinks nothing of climbing on his motorcycle without one," was the lead in the story in the Cincinnati Post. That sentiment was echoed on sports talk radio and in a number of other articles and columns.

Of course, even with helmets, every NFL player risks serious injury with every snap of the ball. (And let's not forget, they used to play without helmets.)

I must know about 30 guys who have bikes. Some always wear helmets; others wouldn't be caught dead, so to speak, wearing one.

Said one veteran who's a serious biker: "I ALWAYS wear a helmet. Usually, I also wear a kevlar/nylon cordura jacket, reinforced leather boots with ankle and shin guards built in, leather gloves reinforced with kevlar in the palms and padding on the knuckles -- and about half the time, I also wear kevlar/cordura pants. I'm an avid helmet-wearer, but I support the right of those to be stupid if they so choose."

Exactly. It's their choice. You and I might think it's insane for a grown man or woman to climb on a bike without a helmet -- to risk their very existence on the chance that they'll never get cut off by a driver, never wipe out on the highway, never crash into a viaduct.

But it should be their decision. A biker riding without his helmet can't hurt anyone but himself.[/QUOTE]
 
Err...whats the issue here?

A guy doesn't wear proper riding gear, takes a spill and gets busted up. This happens everyday, but because this guy happens to be famous, all this attention...hmm, well I'm glad things arn't worse for him & hope he makes a full recovery - just as I would wish this for any brother or sister that has went down - not because of societal status.

I can see it now, more legislation, more restrictions, etc...

BUT, lets not do a Damnn thing about elected goverment officials who like to drink and drive and kill motorcycle riders...well the logic is damnn silly. And hey, you can even practice law again if your important enough!

I'm thinking a few people in Vegas are laying odds on Roethlisberger being nominated for the Darwin Award if this guy gets on a bike again.
 
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