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I'd like to know how they got those accelleration numbers. I have seen Busa 0-100 times at 5.5 seconds, they have it at 6.27. That's a huge difference. They also have the Busa 1/4 mile time as 10.45 seconds @ 142 mph, while the accelleration table shows 11.59 seconds to 140. Not to mention the Busa can break into the 9s. The numbers for the zx13.5 appear to be more correct, making it look faster than the Busa. Something smells.
Hi Guys and Gals here is the reply from Superbike Magazine.
Hi Derek (and Hayabusa.org)
Thanks for your mail and kind words about the mag - we try hard and it's nice to get some feedback.
The speed testing is a fairly lengthily process where we try and get the best possible results for each bike. Each test is independent to the last one (so last year's equivalent may well be different) but all of these bikes were tested in equal conditions on the same morning, Friday the 9th of June to be precise.
Standing 1/4 runs can be separate to the top speed runs so although in theory every top speed run could obtain the fastest standing start, in practice the best one is often achieved separately. The best top speed run therefore might not produce the highest 0-60 or indeed 0-140mph. I don't know why this is the case, all I know is I ride the bikes as fast as I can in as machine-like fashion as I can.
The test format usually includes at least four top speed runs, six standing starts, five brake tests and one sixth gear top speed roll-on. Any more than this number tends to fry the clutches or brakes to the point of uselessness. If at any point I fluff a gear, get too much wheel spin or make a mistake I stop and do it again. That way we have a range of runs for the data logger to analyse and see which is the optimum.
You might well have seen better figures for a Busa, in fact I think I have done higher figures myself, but the weather conditions (and probably my 6foot/13 stone frame) can hinder the figures slightly.
I hope this helps? Honestly I cannot explain the discrepancy but I do trust speed testing is probably the most objective part of each test we do.
Best regards
Jon
Real World Editor
SuperBike Magazine
Tel: 020 8726 8443
HAVE YOU SEEN OUR WEBSITE? http://www.superbike.co.uk/
> From: Derek Dewey [mailto
erek.Dewey@ekes-co.de]
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2006 2:29 PM
To: Superbike Letters - IPC superbike_letters@ipcmedia.com>
Subject: ZZR13.5 v Busa v Beemer
Hi Guys,
First of all I would like to say that your magazine is the best British biking publication and the only one I buy.
I am not the type of guy who writes in to magazines often, think this is my third in 54 years, but something in the above speed test made me think. OK I admit to being a Busa owner and as you rightly say in the article that it generally feels dated, plus the brakes are sh#t. In the article you say the bikes are speed tested via no-quibble data logging, OK I am quibbling
the standing ¼ mile times:- ZZR13.5 10.45@ 140.27
Busa 10.45@ 142.05 this makes the Busa faster
To me this can not be correct, as in the chart:- ZZR13.5 10.48@ 140
Busa 11.59@ 140
The figures for the ZZR13.5 seem fine, but I have seen Busa figures higher
Now I am not saying that the figures have been designed to make the ZZR13.5 look faster, but can you explain the figures for me.
Please reply as the Hayabusa.org need an answer to this shoot out.
Best regards
Derek Dewey
Design Engineer
EKES Office,
Ludwig-Erhard-Ring 4,
D-15827 Bankenfelde-Mahlow
Germany
Tel : +49 33708 939043
Fax : +49 33708 939099
Hi Derek (and Hayabusa.org)
Thanks for your mail and kind words about the mag - we try hard and it's nice to get some feedback.
The speed testing is a fairly lengthily process where we try and get the best possible results for each bike. Each test is independent to the last one (so last year's equivalent may well be different) but all of these bikes were tested in equal conditions on the same morning, Friday the 9th of June to be precise.
Standing 1/4 runs can be separate to the top speed runs so although in theory every top speed run could obtain the fastest standing start, in practice the best one is often achieved separately. The best top speed run therefore might not produce the highest 0-60 or indeed 0-140mph. I don't know why this is the case, all I know is I ride the bikes as fast as I can in as machine-like fashion as I can.
The test format usually includes at least four top speed runs, six standing starts, five brake tests and one sixth gear top speed roll-on. Any more than this number tends to fry the clutches or brakes to the point of uselessness. If at any point I fluff a gear, get too much wheel spin or make a mistake I stop and do it again. That way we have a range of runs for the data logger to analyse and see which is the optimum.
You might well have seen better figures for a Busa, in fact I think I have done higher figures myself, but the weather conditions (and probably my 6foot/13 stone frame) can hinder the figures slightly.
I hope this helps? Honestly I cannot explain the discrepancy but I do trust speed testing is probably the most objective part of each test we do.
Best regards
Jon
Real World Editor
SuperBike Magazine
Tel: 020 8726 8443
HAVE YOU SEEN OUR WEBSITE? http://www.superbike.co.uk/
> From: Derek Dewey [mailto
erek.Dewey@ekes-co.de]Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2006 2:29 PM
To: Superbike Letters - IPC superbike_letters@ipcmedia.com>
Subject: ZZR13.5 v Busa v Beemer
Hi Guys,
First of all I would like to say that your magazine is the best British biking publication and the only one I buy.
I am not the type of guy who writes in to magazines often, think this is my third in 54 years, but something in the above speed test made me think. OK I admit to being a Busa owner and as you rightly say in the article that it generally feels dated, plus the brakes are sh#t. In the article you say the bikes are speed tested via no-quibble data logging, OK I am quibbling
the standing ¼ mile times:- ZZR13.5 10.45@ 140.27
Busa 10.45@ 142.05 this makes the Busa faster
To me this can not be correct, as in the chart:- ZZR13.5 10.48@ 140
Busa 11.59@ 140
The figures for the ZZR13.5 seem fine, but I have seen Busa figures higher
Now I am not saying that the figures have been designed to make the ZZR13.5 look faster, but can you explain the figures for me.
Please reply as the Hayabusa.org need an answer to this shoot out.
Best regards
Derek Dewey
Design Engineer
EKES Office,
Ludwig-Erhard-Ring 4,
D-15827 Bankenfelde-Mahlow
Germany
Tel : +49 33708 939043
Fax : +49 33708 939099
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