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1. What is the average Wage for Federal Employees?

2. What is the average wage in America?

3. How many Federal Employees make $170K +?

4. How many Federal Employees make $100K +?

5. (I'll toss this one in for fun)
How many staff personel does Michele Obama have? :laugh:
Let me just say Barack was very generous in assigning permanent staff to pamper his wife!

You may be surprised at the answers?

You don't need to be specific, round numbers are fine!

If you have no idea, take a guess!
 
1. 150k
2. 25k
3. 30%
4. 60%
5. 48....but I believe still less than First Lady Bush
 
Just read an article at work regarding #3 and it's outrageous! They gave an example of how some FAA director had his salary increased therefore several thousand had their salaries bumped to maintain the same separation to over $170k. You must be pulling this from the same article (USA Today). Just go ahead and put the numbers out there...peeps will be blown away!

I think Randy posted a thing sometime back about #5 and it was ludicrous!!
 
1. $79K ......down from $111K just 3 years ago
2. $41K .......Geez !
3. ??
4. ??
5. No comment :laugh:
 
well I suppose if you are going to have an average wage of $150G and then employ 25-30% of the US working force, a re-election is a shoe in no matter how bad you bork up health care, SS and taxes... the same people are not reliant on the programs.....

:rofl: (you know you are going to upset some locals with this stuff.. rocking the boat wakes people up and could endanger the ride they are getting in some cases)

They should think about paying the average military guy a decent wage and screw off the cubicle paper pushers...
 
A little groggy after working 3rd shift....memory fuzzy....but here's the article I read.

USATODAY.com

1700 in the FAA had their salary bumped to over 170k because of one person having theirs raised. ???

"The highest-paid federal employees are doing best of all on salary increases. Defense Department civilian employees earning $150,000 or more increased from 1,868 in December 2007 to 10,100 in June 2009, the most recent figure available. "

I should have went civilian DoD after leaving the USAF!!
 
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jdsbusa said:
A little groggy after working 3rd shift....memory fuzzy....but here's the article I read.

USATODAY.com
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Everyone should read this article. If it don't make you angry, then you need a caffeine fix before reading the article again. This is not a Bush vs. Obama thread. The average Federal Employee making $30K more than the average american shows just how far out of touch our leaders really are!

Oh, by the way, Michele Obama has 22 staff members to pamper her. Let's see, if they are average federal employees that totals, $1,544,000 annually plus benefits makes the tax payers burden for the first lady exceeding $2million bucks annually! $8million dollars over the next four years would buy how many pedicures? :bowdown:
 
sad thing is....what are we going to do about it?
Just keep stomping along and pay our taxes like good little sheeple.
 
I'm daft to wade into to this thread but here I go:

Most wage grade jobs are now contracted out. Leaving mostly highly educated and highly skilled workers that are in the average salary calculations.

To be fair you need to compare like job categories, locations (most government jobs are high cost urban areas), length of experience, and education levels. Government workers make on average roughly 20% less than their conterparts in the private sector.

Many of the highest paying jobs are political appointees not your average career Jobs.

How much should we pay the top executives of what would be "money wise" the largest company in the world?

Keep in mind that the government continues to grow. The more people say "why doesn't the govenment do something about this or that" the bigger the government gets - ergo more highly paid people.

You ain't seen nothing yet. The goverment is poised to take over another 20% of the US economy.

Better get out there and vote. Or the only jobs left will be government Jobs.:banghead:
 
brpo said:
I'm daft to wade into to this thread but here I go:

Most wage grade jobs are now contracted out. Leaving mostly highly educated and highly skilled workers that are in the average salary calculations.

To be fair you need to compare like job categories, locations (most government jobs are high cost urban areas), length of experience, and education levels. Government workers make on average roughly 20% less than their conterparts in the private sector.

Many of the highest paying jobs are political appointees not your average career Jobs.

How much should we pay the top executives of what would be "money wise" the largest company in the world?

Keep in mind that the government continues to grow. The more people say "why doesn't the govenment do something about this or that" the bigger the government gets - ergo more highly paid people.

You ain't seen nothing yet. The goverment is poised to take over another 20% of the US economy.

Better get out there and vote. Or the only jobs left will be government Jobs.:banghead:
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You lost them at: "to be fair"

Jessica Klement, government affairs director for the Federal Managers Association, says the federal workforce is highly paid because the government employs skilled people such as scientists, physicians and lawyers. She says federal employees make 26% less than private workers for comparable jobs.
 
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I left the Government as a GS14 Computer Specialist because I could make more in the private sector doing basically the same thing. I doubt things have really changed that much. Using one of the stats quoted above as an example, if there were 1,868 people making $151,000 and 8232 people making $149,000 in 2007. And they all got a 1% pay increase over an 18 month period, you would now have 10,100 people over $150,000. Same with the "bumped over $170,000" statement. If they were already knocking on the door, a small increase will make for a dramatic headline. Figures don't lie, liars figure.

PS, I can't believe Dino and I agree on something. :laugh:
 
Dino said:
You lost them at: "to be fair"

Jessica Klement, government affairs director for the Federal Managers Association, says the federal workforce is highly paid because the government employs skilled people such as scientists, physicians and lawyers. She says federal employees make 26% less than private workers for comparable jobs.
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The same goes for state workers...
My ex who was an attorney for the city of seattle was making about 75k a year.
yet an attorney who works for themselves or a private firm makes double that.
 
Dino said:
Jessica Klement, government affairs director for the Federal Managers Association, says the federal workforce is highly paid because the government employs skilled people such as scientists, physicians and lawyers.
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I guess the people who are educating the nation's future aren't quite SKILLED enough to deserve those raises. Instead they are SLASHING state Education Department BUDGETS all over the Nation. :banghead:
 
BusaWhipped said:
PS, I can't believe Dino and I agree on something. :laugh:
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Busa Jules said:
I guess the people who are educating the nation's future aren't quite SKILLED enough to deserve those raises. Instead they are SLASHING state Education Department BUDGETS all over the Nation. :banghead:
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BW - that seems to be happening more and more around here. I must be gettting old.

Jules - I agree with you 100% teachers should be much better paid.
 
To play devil's advocate, it is hard to get some folks to move to DC because it costs so much to live here. We lived a whole lot better on a whole lot less money in the southwest than we do here. The government has trouble recruiting people because they can't pay them enough to get them from the private sector. And finally, many of those people making the really big bucks work like crazy - totally blackberried - not saying other people don't work hard, or double shifts, or two jobs, but a lot of senior people in government no longer even have personal lives. It's not about the money for them. It's about making a difference, or the power. They are totally driven.
 
I work for a federally owned corporation, but we are not paid by tax dollars. We do well, but some of us could do much better in the private sector. You must keep in mind that almost all of our 35,000 employees are highly skilled workers or professionals of some sort.

As an example, our CEO's compensation package for 2008 was worth $2.7 Million.

CEOs from two of our neighboring companies in the same industry had compensation packages worth $5.3 Million and $5.9 Million.

The CEO of the largest US company in our industry earned $12.2 Million in the same year.

The government has to at least try to offer competitive salaries if they want to have competent employees doing the jobs that need to be done.
 
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