so a few 100 miles on them ........... i found out how low i will go lol , the tires on the other had more to go . my friend was following me into a fav turn of mine { rt 23 south to 80 east north jersey } . so we get to where we were going " dude next you hit a turn that low without proper gear on ........" we were running around not going hard , i had zero idea . love the tires , in am we find out what they can do on street with proper gear on lol . have a safe holiday weekend .