just saying

Guess you mean the hatred for the white man is so high the non whites voted for Obama because he is black-ish? You can take all the money from all the "rich" white men and it will pay the federal bill for a few years max, if that long. I do agree with your fist paragraph 100%, I seem to remember the Dems in congress doing the same thing to Bush, Reagan, and the repubs to Clinton etc etc, so this is nothing new. This is not a new day in America its the same ole **** all over again, the gubbernment is to spend money they don't have , they want to grab money from the people who have it, eventually they will reach down to your level of income and take what you have (they are already). I am a white guy, but aint a 1%er yet, prob never will be, I just don't like seeing people getting on the dole and becoming enslaved to the government because that well will run dry and we wont be able to take care of the absolute needy. I would like to know how many that believe in this socialist experiment are adding a little extra in their tax payments to help the New Day go Forward?

There is no need to make our country great again, it still is, always has been, and always will be.

So, for all of you "It's all broken" people I ask when was it fixed? America has always been in chaos, from the very writing of our constitution to the the Civil War to the World Wars to right now. Democracy is the untimate sausage making mess. However It's only really broken when people are so self interested that they just walk away from the process. Democracy can't survive a citizenry who feels like if they don't get their way then to hell with the country.

In the past 4 years we have had a small minority of the people who decided to stop everything until they get their way - that's unamerican. When Clinton left office we had a surplus, and were the envy of the world. He handed the country to Bush as strong as it's ever been. 8 years later Bush hands a broken, failing country to Obama. America works, you just can't let greedy idiots get controll of the system.

Obama said he was a uniter and, like most of the thiings he says, he proved it. He united Jews, Women, Brown People, Black People and Asians to defeat the single group (white males) who were holding the functioning of the government hostage to their agenda of selfishness, oppression and greed.

I think that the "my vote doesn't matter group" and the rich who thought they had their own "America" with all their money were made irrelavant on Nov. 6, 2012. So, are you going to join this new day in American democracy and get on with the work of making our country great again?
 
So, for all of you "It's all broken" people I ask when was it fixed? America has always been in chaos, from the very writing of our constitution to the the Civil War to the World Wars to right now. Democracy is the untimate sausage making mess. However It's only really broken when people are so self interested that they just walk away from the process. Democracy can't survive a citizenry who feels like if they don't get their way then to hell with the country.

In the past 4 years we have had a small minority of the people who decided to stop everything until they get their way - that's unamerican. When Clinton left office we had a surplus, and were the envy of the world. He handed the country to Bush as strong as it's ever been. 8 years later Bush hands a broken, failing country to Obama. America works, you just can't let greedy idiots get controll of the system.

Obama said he was a uniter and, like most of the thiings he says, he proved it. He united Jews, Women, Brown People, Black People and Asians to defeat the single group (white males) who were holding the functioning of the government hostage to their agenda of selfishness, oppression and greed.

I think that the "my vote doesn't matter group" and the rich who thought they had their own "America" with all their money were made irrelavant on Nov. 6, 2012. So, are you going to join this new day in American democracy and get on with the work of making our country great again?

Wow ease up on them Fallen :laugh: your making too much sense at one time.
 
OMG, the last 4 years were excused as Bush's fault, you've already bought into the excuse for the next 4, a Republican Congress :rofl:

Do we need to post the videos and conscripts of the "tea party" movement the house republicans all talking about their plan to stop anything Obama set forth? Did you miss them saying they were going to do everything they could to make him a one term president? They voiced it on the news on the blogs on the floor and on the radio. They made no secret of it. So YES part of the problem over the last 4 years has been a piece of crap republican congress doing as much as they can to get as little as possible done.


Think about this people.. They did NOTHING on purpose so they could try and stop an election 4 years away.. for FOUR years they screwed with your economy with your lives so they could make the president look bad. To top it off they bragged about it anywhere they could!!! WTF is wrong with that picture? How hard is it to see that when they were upfront about it??

Wow.... just wow.
 
I'm leaving now, gonna go out to dinner with my family and spend some of my free money I got from my government job (it can't be a real job because "the government doesn't create jobs"....I heard it on Fox News).
 
Guess you mean the hatred for the white man is so high the non whites voted for Obama because he is black-ish? You can take all the money from all the "rich" white men and it will pay the federal bill for a few years max, if that long. I do agree with your fist paragraph 100%, I seem to remember the Dems in congress doing the same thing to Bush, Reagan, and the repubs to Clinton etc etc, so this is nothing new. This is not a new day in America its the same ole **** all over again, the gubbernment is to spend money they don't have , they want to grab money from the people who have it, eventually they will reach down to your level of income and take what you have (they are already). I am a white guy, but aint a 1%er yet, prob never will be, I just don't like seeing people getting on the dole and becoming enslaved to the government because that well will run dry and we wont be able to take care of the absolute needy. I would like to know how many that believe in this socialist experiment are adding a little extra in their tax payments to help the New Day go Forward?

There is no need to make our country great again, it still is, always has been, and always will be.

I don't hate the white man (stop acting like a victim), I just want the tea party ones out of the way so the country can get things back on track. Besides, some of my best friends are white :laugh: I engaged in these threads before the election because i hated to let the propaganda fool unsuspecting people. Now that the election is over, it's clear it didn't fool anyone - even a billion dollars worth! Now you right wingers are just not all that relavant. By the way, what you guys did in Obama's first term has never been done before. Bush faced one filabuster, Obama faced hundreds. That's unamerican and treasonist. You should stop spreading the lie that what the republicans did for the last 4 years was business as usual.

But the people have re-stated their belief in Obama's leadership. If you think the people voted the wrong way, it's not because the people are stupid it's because your candidates and platform was. Why would I vote for a party that alienates every major demographic, says they don't care about half the people and then at the last minute trys to take it all back? And you call democrats stupid????
 
Do we need to post the videos and conscripts of the "tea party" movement the house republicans all talking about their plan to stop anything Obama set forth? Did you miss them saying they were going to do everything they could to make him a one term president? They voiced it on the news on the blogs on the floor and on the radio. They made no secret of it. So YES part of the problem over the last 4 years has been a piece of crap republican congress doing as much as they can to get as little as possible done.


Think about this people.. They did NOTHING on purpose so they could try and stop an election 4 years away.. for FOUR years they screwed with your economy with your lives so they could make the president look bad. To top it off they bragged about it anywhere they could!!! WTF is wrong with that picture? How hard is it to see that when they were upfront about it??

Wow.... just wow.

I have to admit that this posting is spot on. It is actually sad that a party was so focused on stopping/impeding the other party and publicly announced their plan to do so.

To respond to the OP, I suspect the reason Romney lost this election was due to the GOP's far-right and extreme conservative bend. I think most Americans, regardless of party affiliation, are located somewhere in the middle. Too far right or left throws up red flags. If Romney had stayed in the middle perhaps enough concerned Democrats & Republicans would have voted for him....the margin was close. I know it's pure speculation at this point though. My :2cents:
 
I don't hate the white man (stop acting like a victim), I just want the tea party ones out of the way so the country can get things back on track. Besides, some of my best friends are white :laugh:

Hahaha! That's some funny stuff right there!
 
Hahaha! That's some funny stuff right there!

I'm glad you took it that way. It's funny how we argue so much about race but then get along like nothing was ever said. Out of the 10 people I would truely call friends, only one is Black and one is Asian, the rest are white. We go at each other like crazy including some pretty funny absolutely not PC moments. It's very funny actually. It reminds me of the Sheep dog and the wolf in those old Warner Brothers cartoons.
 
Sam & Ralph:

Sheepdog & Ralph Wolf - Woolen Under Where (1963) - YouTube[/url]
 
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:please::please: In time, in time. With the spending by Congress, we are doomed to fail. The US dollar will be worthless. Then what? Who you gonne call?

Taft Benson on American Socialism-1977 - YouTube[/url]

U.S. Dollar Road To Destruction From Loss Of Value To Loss Of Demand! - YouTube[/url]
 
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You guys ,,,, what do you mean by you guys???????? :laugh:

Remember, the Dems had control of both houses the first two years. I guess the Repub argument fooled close to half the population as Romney got almost as many popular votes as Obama. I personally despise both of these parties and the people leading them. I think it was closer to $2 Bil spent on this election. Where does all this money come from and why is it going to someone running for a public office, maybe because they will be dispensing public funds and making policy that will impact a lot of interests? Where is the pay out for the politicians and political parties,,, payola? Insider trading based on legislation?? As much as I despise these politicians and the parties they represent I hesitate to call Obama or the Repubs and Dems in the Senate and House treasonous, criminals for taking direct and indirect bribes in the form of campaign donations? Yes, Guilty of insider trading activities, yes (most of them), treasonous, not likely.

I don't understand why the liberals (socialists actually) get so worked up about the tea party one minute then insist they are inconsequential the next. If someone wants to start a political party its within their right to do so, this is still America. If you think the Dems care about the poor and minorities more than Republicans you are fooling yourself, they care as far as the next vote, then they will pretend to care with an air of paternalism that disgusts me, hell they even insist on lower educational standards for minorities, by group, here in Fla, sickening, (how is that caring?). The Republicans have not mastered the paternalism thing yet but they think the same way.

The President is the executive of the country, very few have been good leaders, including Obama. Obama, Bush, and all before work for us , we don't work for them. I don't think the Dems or Repubs are stupid, hell they have managed to fleece 16 trillion dollars from future generations, pit one racial group against the other, one religion against the other, the boy scouts against the girl scouts, and not piss off the majority of the country so far, maybe its us who are stupid. Anyway, we will see what happens when the credit card is denied and the bill comes due, that's when you will see who stands up and who demagogs.

I don't see much of a difference between Bush and Obama, except that Obama put us much deeper in debt and quicker. The more I think about it, Obama just continued Bushes policies with gusto, Bailouts, Guantanamo, Exiting Iraq on Bushes schedule, massive increases in welfare spending, fast and furious, what are these new leadership policies Obama demonstrates? Letting his Ambassador and others get killed in Benghazi? Getting services restored to NY NJ and Conn after Sandy (his Katrina)? Adding untold millions to the public dole? QE 1,2, and soon 3? Growing the economy and shrinking effective unemployment (NOT)?

Both Harvard grads demonstrating excellent leadership in some peoples eyes I guess. I am glad most the generation ahead of me , the baby boomers, will be around to see and pay for our past sins.


Am being a little pessimistic, and some above are disappointed that many don't share the same enthusiasm in the election results. As a world traveler I know we will come through this period in our history just fine and I would have it no other way, this is what makes us an exceptional people and country in the aggregate. I love this country and all my fellow countrymen, no matter party , race, religion, blah blah. I know there is no where else to go, we have been through much worse in our history, I think we all know that, and that's why we get a little passionate. Peace to all of you.

I don't hate the white man (stop acting like a victim), I just want the tea party ones out of the way so the country can get things back on track. Besides, some of my best friends are white :laugh: I engaged in these threads before the election because i hated to let the propaganda fool unsuspecting people. Now that the election is over, it's clear it didn't fool anyone - even a billion dollars worth! Now you right wingers are just not all that relavant. By the way, what you guys did in Obama's first term has never been done before. Bush faced one filabuster, Obama faced hundreds. That's unamerican and treasonist. You should stop spreading the lie that what the republicans did for the last 4 years was business as usual.



But the people have re-stated their belief in Obama's leadership. If you think the people voted the wrong way, it's not because the people are stupid it's because your candidates and platform was. Why would I vote for a party that alienates every major demographic, says they don't care about half the people and then at the last minute trys to take it all back? And you call democrats stupid????
 
ya ya ya

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I didn't see him crying. I saw him say it's Bush's fault and then spank the dummies who tried to hide Bush like he never existed & tried to stop him. Are you guys going to take responsibility for your low-information voting accident? :laugh:

You guys are getting to be like "The Donald", that is you don't know when you've been embarassed and need to just shutup and get with the program.............
 
LOOKS TO ME LIKE ALOT OF US ARE WITH THE PROGRAM. I am not going to join the program of welfare and food stamps. looking for the government to take care me me. i am not going to join the program that lie's blaming a video for 4 Americans being murdered by TERRORIST. I will not get with the program that after the 4 Americans were murdered we have a president that gave the Muslim Brotherhood $70 million dollars and went on TV doing commercials in Libya and Egypt APOLOGIZING for AMERICA and this video. I WILL GET WITH THE PROGRAM OF KEEPING THE USA THE STRONGEST COUNTRY IT CAN BE. I DON'T HAVE TO DEFEND THIS PRESIDENT. BUT I TOOK AN OATH TO DEFEND THIS COUNTRY AND IT'S PEOPLE.
So what program is you want us to join????????

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