I just took a Gemar 1 1/4" risers off of my bike, I have had them on for 2000 miles. They never really felt like I wanted. I just put a set of Heli Bars on it and just came back from a 50 mile ride it feels great, they don't look like they do much, but I can't believe the difference in the feel and riding position. The Genmars might be better for some people, but the Heli bars feel much better to me, but that's only after a 50 mile ride. I'am going to ride it back to Deals Gap with this setup, and I can tell more after that.