Thanks for the replies, going to order me a set today. I always wear gear,(jacket, helmet, boots, but I've never had pants made specifically for riding. I always just were a good pair of jeans that I know would only help a little in the event of a mishap. My local bike shop had some womens sizes in stock and I bought my wife some Icon standards, she said she really liked the fit and feel, although we havent had the chance to ride with them yet.