Turbo or, Big Bore(1397) ?

[NiTrowood]

I had a customer that wanted power on the cheap and he didnt want to get poped by the cops for being to loud.je-13.5.1 1397 no base gasket,moved intake cam on the exhaust with 378 on the intake,cam srockets,relay for 24-volt start,shim stock valve springs,two longer velocity stacks for a total of 4,16t front sprocket,HD clutch springs,NO mod to air box or exhaust programed with yosh box. Its just what he wanted a bar hopper. www.1320straightliners.com [/QUOTE]

question: what was outcome of this kit? Cost? rwhp?



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[hayabusa36]

I have to agree to a point with thraser fox. To a point meaning, Just a set of cans, a T.R.E. and an air filter mabye a fine tune on a dyno is more than enough for everyday speed and not having to worry about blowing it up. I love going fast and unless your racing TRACK ONLY mild mods are the way to go. Thats my 2 cents. Good luck in whatever you choose



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[Over_Easy]

but i would think that the lag would take alot of getting used to unless you just like to go in a line with no turns you'd be asking to buy new plastic quite often.

By "plastics" you mean prosthetics?

 

[300Busa]

I know a guy with one of each, he prefers the turbo with spray.

 

[The Big Red One]

I dunno, personally, I would find an excellent engine builder.  A real Pro not some Jar head with a wrench and a kit.  But find someone to build the hell out of a big bore Motor.  Get it Balanced, and take care of the rest of the driveline while your at it.  You should be able to get what?  220-230 reliable HP all day....  It's less tricky than a turbo, a little more of an old school approach.  This is just my opinion though.  Turbo makes a ton of power but is tricky to get right, this I learned jsut from watching people here on the board spend $8k...Then spend another $2k, then a month later another $2k Etc...  Fug That, I wanna ride not have issues.

Like Eater Said though if it's done right it'll last a year or so anyway..

Personally I love boost .....alot but I also like reliability....alot Either one would prolly be a blast...but the big bore would prolly be more bullet proof down the road, although the turbo would prolly be more fun. I had a factory turbo bike I boosted way up and it ran great...but like NE said you have to use some restraint and common sense if you want a boosted bike to last.
Actually you need that for anything to last

 

[busaboy8]

Big Bores all the way! I have a Big Bore crankn over 200hp . You can also hide a Big Bore without any1 really knowing you have 1. Also the Big Bore does not have a "Lag" like that of a turbo. My choice, Big Bore all the way!

 

[JackLKing]

I agree with most here......BIG cc's is the most reliable way to go

 

[GSXRme]

I dropped $5,600 on a Stage 1 with all the Extras to building the Motor and so on. NO labor and NO worries of the bike going to explode.  

My Goal is 300WRHP. I need a Boost controller & Intercooler....  to get the real power out.

1 Step at a time w/o dieing  

Anything to go faster than any other bike on the road and Anything to shut the **** talkers up!  

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Studs, Spacers, JE Turbo Pistons, Adj Cam Sprockets, 1 Peice Billet Clutch, HD Springs, External blow off Vavle, Stage 1 Ghetto Crack pipe Turbo Kit, 18/40 Vortex Sprockets and RK 530 GWX Chain, Billet Mag Cover

 

[IFLYLOW]

(GSXRme @ Sep. 22 2006,08:22) I dropped $5,600 on a Stage 1 with all the Extras to building the Motor and so on. NO labor and NO worries of the bike going to explode.  

My Goal is 300WRHP. I need a Boost controller & Intercooler....  to get the real power out.

1 Step at a time w/o dieing  

Anything to go faster than any other bike on the road and Anything to shut the **** talkers up!  

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Studs, Spacers, JE Turbo Pistons, Adj Cam Sprockets, 1 Peice Billet Clutch, HD Springs, External blow off Vavle, Stage 1 Ghetto Crack pipe Turbo Kit, 18/40 Vortex Sprockets and RK 530 GWX Chain, Billet Mag Cover

What about your trans? Any mods? Are you gonna change the rods also?

 

[Fat Busa Racing 1347]

I have a 1397 and my buddy has a turbo. I'm faster at

the track and his has bin apart 3 times now for new

pisstons. Mine is still going strong and has had more

passes at the track than the turbo.

I can't wait to get a crank put in my bike and kick it out

to 1500+cc....

 

[JackLKing]

(Revlis @ Sep. 02 2004,04:41) I dunno, personally, I would find an excellent engine builder. A real Pro not some Jar head with a wrench and a kit. But find someone to build the hell out of a big bore Motor. Get it Balanced, and take care of the rest of the driveline while your at it. You should be able to get what? 220-230 reliable HP all day.... It's less tricky than a turbo, a little more of an old school approach. This is just my opinion though. Turbo makes a ton of power but is tricky to get right, this I learned jsut from watching people here on the board spend $8k...Then spend another $2k, then a month later another $2k Etc... Fug That, I wanna ride not have issues.

Like Eater Said though if it's done right it'll last a year or so anyway..

I agree.........

 

[GSXRme]

(IFLYLOW @ Sep. 22 2006,09:06)

(GSXRme @ Sep. 22 2006,08:22) I dropped $5,600 on a Stage 1 with all the Extras to building the Motor and so on. NO labor and NO worries of the bike going to explode.  

My Goal is 300WRHP. I need a Boost controller & Intercooler....  to get the real power out.

1 Step at a time w/o dieing  

Anything to go faster than any other bike on the road and Anything to shut the **** talkers up!  

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Studs, Spacers, JE Turbo Pistons, Adj Cam Sprockets, 1 Peice Billet Clutch, HD Springs, External blow off Vavle, Stage 1 Ghetto Crack pipe Turbo Kit, 18/40 Vortex Sprockets and RK 530 GWX Chain, Billet Mag Cover

What about your trans? Any mods? Are you gonna change the rods also?

Dennis "THEMOTORHEAD" told me the Stock rods are good with spacers and JE Turbo Pistons for just alittle more than 400RWHP.

Maybe just maybe the day I upgrade to rods I could do a 1397 Turbo setup w/ intercooler...

First things first

 

[GSXRme]

I was going crazy...

I was in the same boat. I wanted to go either 1507cc w/ a 5 mm Stroker and 84MM bore or Turbo. All Motor 250RWHP would be bad ass. But you need to look at all the little things that would be recommended.

*Head work $950.00+
*Cams $615.00+
*Fuel System ....
*HD Clutch Springs ...
*1 Peice Clutch or Lock $199.00+
*Costs for Boring the Block $862+
*Stoker Crank $815.00+
*Pistons / Wrists Pins $610+
*Gaskets $100+
*Block Studs / Nuts $120
*Cam Sprockets $154
*Labor $800+

I'm upto $5225 and I know im missing afew things. like 2nt Radiator Fan Mod.

It all comes down to what YOU want... and how much $$ do you have.

 

[GoldenChild]

I got motor kit prices now fellas will post tonight...you will want to go big bore for sure at these prices with the power your gonna be able to make and reliabilty if you follow our instructions......

 

[SpeedGeek]

Waiting.... Drooling....

I need to know how much $$$$ I'm ging to have to talk the wife out of this winter.

 

[IFLYLOW]

(GoldenChild @ Sep. 30 2006,11:53) I got motor kit prices now fellas will post tonight...you will want to go big bore for sure at these prices with the power your gonna be able to make and reliabilty if you follow our instructions......  

Whats up Daniel, hit us up with those prices

 

[GoldenChild]

I posted a whole new post right here:




Speed this would be perfect for you,since your local.

 

[egbert yuk fooie]

Why not a Supercharger? Contact 1-510- 452-1217 Jason Keats- ie.Super Grizz form TMH site. EXELENT RIDE. cant go wrong. Will be less than a turbo or near the price of a turbo. Very predictable from a riders viewpoint. Liniar in pull from idle to red line. Not unpridictable at all. With the twisties and all here thatsa nice. NO IM NOT AFILIATED- --SEE ME--

 

[fstbusa]

for the most part the s/c kits are just as much as a turbo kit and yield slightly less hp

 

[mountainmotor]

(egbert yuk fooie @ Oct. 12 2006,13) Why not a Supercharger? Contact  1-510- 452-1217 Jason Keats- ie.Super Grizz form TMH site. EXELENT RIDE. cant go wrong. Will be less than a turbo or near the price of a turbo. Very predictable from a riders viewpoint. Liniar in pull from idle to red line. Not unpridictable at all. With the twisties and all here thatsa nice. NO IM NOT AFILIATED-  --SEE ME--

Do you own one of his blower kits and have it running on a Busa ?

I have asked several times for pics , been told they would be emailed to me..... nadda zilch . I asked for a dyno sheet , was sent a sheet of a TTS Busa . Was also told awhile back that three members of the other site had just bought Busa blower kits but I can't find those guys  

12 months later and still the only pic on that website is of the bike @ the TTS shop , in England so it's got me wondering . Links to pics or links to threads with actual owners of the Superbike Busa blower kit would help remove some of that wondering I have.