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TurboProstreet
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If you have the need to top out your bike it's the only way it's going to happen, but they cause glitchs sometimes. I never recommend them unless you do top end stuff. If your bike is mapped correctly you won't need it to fix bottom end problems.
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Puzzled
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Thanks for the reply.
Due to bordem I was reading about the TRE and how it adds a little snap to the bottom end. My bike is a tire fryer now with a 10 over arm but a little more umph never hurts. Since I have a 00 bike I believe the TRE isn't going to help me any at the top end, or am I wrong?
Due to bordem I was reading about the TRE and how it adds a little snap to the bottom end. My bike is a tire fryer now with a 10 over arm but a little more umph never hurts. Since I have a 00 bike I believe the TRE isn't going to help me any at the top end, or am I wrong?
TurboProstreet
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The only time the TRE helps any is if you don't have your mapping correct. If the bike is correct you don't need it.
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TurboProstreet
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I'm not really a side chooser, i go by my experience with a product and after a few hundred Busas on my dyno and damn near every configuration possible i go by what works the best for my customers. 80% of the time if a bike comes in with strange running glitchs, idle fluctuations, throttle glitches that are not constant, and just weird happenings i can look under the tank and usually find a TRE. Yes they help with low end on a stock bike with no powercommander, but if you get the bike tuned correctly you would never notice it. The only time we use them is if we have a bike that needs to run to redline in 6th gear.
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Puzzled
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Holly ####, redline in 6th gear!
Thats-a-bookin'.
You said "on a stock bike" they help. That is something that has been missing from the TRE debates I've read. (or I just missed it) I see where your coming from as far as tuning it right and not needing it. Thanks for your input.
You said "on a stock bike" they help. That is something that has been missing from the TRE debates I've read. (or I just missed it) I see where your coming from as far as tuning it right and not needing it. Thanks for your input.
Puzzled
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300Busa that was my understanding as far as the speed limiter goes. However I thought it would still be effective on the low end like it has been claimed it does. TurboProStreet brings up a very valid point with the correct tuning if your running some sort of piggy back system like a Power Commander. Which leaves me to ask will a TRE work on a bone stock 99-00?
Johnnycheese
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there is never a need for a TRE
Glad to see you posting JC. Hope things are going well for you.
PaceMaster
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Hmm-- TRE-- politic's--Funny--- My .02---- The 99 and 2000 Busa has no restrictor in sixth gear.
01 and up all do. What it does is limit the top speed i sixth gear--- like going down a steep grade at WFO----- a rpm limiter kicks in at around 184-186 actual mph---you will not get to the actual redline of 10,800 rpm. In fifth gear it will go all the way to the revlimiter-- which is a GPS true speed of 176 mph. [ That was fun ] but pi__ed that i only matched the top speed of a ZX1100 Ninja.
I made my own tre--cheap cheap--with a switch--- when on it's on it fools the computer to think the bike is in 5th gear all the time---Most ignition advance and fuel delivery in all gears--except when you pull the clutch lever in. When i let the clutch out it goes back to the 5th gear map-- changing the engine tone to a nice deep rumble in neutral. I have found in 20,000 miles
that i leave the tre on all the time. I have a PCII and a Muzzy full system. She runs very sweet-but most Busa's hate going 25 mph---- in 2nd gear---runs kinda rough---tre on or not--but to me it does it less with the tre on....but some say it does it worse with a tre. Gofigure. Anyway--something i do not understand-- gas milage----Twice now i have ridden from my house to Lee Vining--106 miles--using my GPS--- And i don't ride like a wuss--TWO GALLONS !!!!!!!!!!!!
What JC said-- don't need a tre---i saw his mod of the gear position sensor--solderd across the pads to do the same thing as adding a tre..clever and free. Off Rant-- ride safe now....
01 and up all do. What it does is limit the top speed i sixth gear--- like going down a steep grade at WFO----- a rpm limiter kicks in at around 184-186 actual mph---you will not get to the actual redline of 10,800 rpm. In fifth gear it will go all the way to the revlimiter-- which is a GPS true speed of 176 mph. [ That was fun ] but pi__ed that i only matched the top speed of a ZX1100 Ninja.
I made my own tre--cheap cheap--with a switch--- when on it's on it fools the computer to think the bike is in 5th gear all the time---Most ignition advance and fuel delivery in all gears--except when you pull the clutch lever in. When i let the clutch out it goes back to the 5th gear map-- changing the engine tone to a nice deep rumble in neutral. I have found in 20,000 miles
that i leave the tre on all the time. I have a PCII and a Muzzy full system. She runs very sweet-but most Busa's hate going 25 mph---- in 2nd gear---runs kinda rough---tre on or not--but to me it does it less with the tre on....but some say it does it worse with a tre. Gofigure. Anyway--something i do not understand-- gas milage----Twice now i have ridden from my house to Lee Vining--106 miles--using my GPS--- And i don't ride like a wuss--TWO GALLONS !!!!!!!!!!!!
What JC said-- don't need a tre---i saw his mod of the gear position sensor--solderd across the pads to do the same thing as adding a tre..clever and free. Off Rant-- ride safe now....
TurboProstreet
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If a bike runs better with a TRE on it and has a powercommander it needs to get mapped right or get it remapped by someone who knows what they are doing. With a Busa tuned right you should be able to idle around a parking lot, ride at 25 in second gear, and get around 40MPG normal highway. if you can't there is a problem with your fueling. PC2's also had some weird problems with loosing maps for no reasons so that a possibility?
Johnny if your redoing the GPS's for the 5th 5-6 send me a PM and let me know how much for the mod. I have some customers i would like to do this for but don't have the time to redo them (tedious as hell i know).
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Johnny if your redoing the GPS's for the 5th 5-6 send me a PM and let me know how much for the mod. I have some customers i would like to do this for but don't have the time to redo them (tedious as hell i know).
Walter
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Johnnycheese
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yep still doing them but been busy as heck
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