The Passion of the Christ - Movie

2) Revelation is a prophetic book, and not easily understood by even "long-time" Christians, let alone the lost.  
I believe that 666 is not really a number but perhaps the picture of a chemical DNA recombined structure we hit upon 'accidentally' while cloning humans creating a 'perfect' person as a leader [BIG mistake!]
That or maybe a new and fruity breakfast cereal the antichrist endorses... doesn't have to be a label folks... hmmm curiously off topic yet again.. DARN MEDICINES!! OOOoh! a caterpillar!!
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Saw the movie Saturday afternoon.

Yes it was a bit bloody, but I think that is the closest that anyone has gotten to what it may have really been like for Christ.
We need to remember that he took all that suffuring willingly for us.
I think people get most upset about the film, because it shows what man is capable of doing to a fellow human, although Christ was God in human form, and we do not like to see that. It is hard to see it on the big screen.
Fact is sometimes harder for us to take than fiction.

Anyway, go see the movie worth the look.

Oh, yes ride safe.
Well put gaw! Ditto!

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2) Revelation is a prophetic book, and not easily understood by even "long-time" Christians, let alone the lost.  
I believe that 666 is not really a number but perhaps the picture of a chemical DNA recombined structure we hit upon 'accidentally' while cloning humans creating a 'perfect' person as a leader [BIG mistake!]
That or maybe a new and fruity breakfast cereal the antichrist endorses...   doesn't have to be a label folks... hmmm curiously off topic yet again.. DARN MEDICINES!!  OOOoh!  a caterpillar!!  
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WWJD: You on pain killers?

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yo.  I'd like to interject some religious discussion here...  ya know in case the movie is based on fiction...  does anybody really think that the whole Jesus thing is just a well thought out ploy to help people deal better with death?  was Jesus some regular joe that listened to a lot of other priests in his day, tied it all up into one big happy covert operation, figured out all the angles so it would be followed forever after and then decided to sacrifice himself as part of the package so it would hold more validity?  all before the age of 35?  Heck I know 39 year olds that STILL don't have a clue about themselves, let alone all of humanity.  Were sheep herders back than SO SMART to come up with all this, gather writings together for a book, cover every little detail AND wrap it up into the best selling 'Self Help' ever created?  I believe they were all more worried about the next big sand storm or what they were going to kill for dinner.  How come none of our Rhode Scholars, Freuds, Dr Phil's etc have not come up with a bigger scam that is more sellable to the gullible American public than some 2000 year old, dusty, outdated, rule book claiming to be the devine inspiration from some HUGE being that science can not even determine if he exists or not?  then again, I'm still waiting for science to explain ANY fo the important things in life:  family, freinds, love, fun, joy...

Anyway, I guess people back then were frickin geniouses compaired to those uf us having go through 13 years of education and some even more.  Maybe I'm missign something.  It seems SO SIMPLISTIC that it is TOO easy.  Or I'm taited to look away from true simplicity?

How's THAT for "religious discussion"  
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...opening a can of worms WWJD?
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I haven't seen the movie, but would like to...I'll be one of those going in to it with more of the "entertainment" aspect than religious...that's not to say I won't feel for what I'm seeing, but I won't be drawn in like others because my beliefs don't hold me fast to this moment, or non-moment (as WWJD points out) in history...I'm sure it's powerful to watch...the previews alone seem incredibly intense, and the word-of-mouth from those around me are that it's good...

I'm not stepping through that door that WWJD just opened though! I'm religiously "spent"!
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...opening a can of worms WWJD?  
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I haven't seen the movie, but would like to...I'll be one of those going in to it with more of the "entertainment" aspect than religious...that's not to say I won't feel for what I'm seeing, but I won't be drawn in like others because my beliefs don't hold me fast to this moment, or non-moment (as WWJD points out) in history...I'm sure it's powerful to watch...the previews alone seem incredibly intense, and the word-of-mouth from those around me are that it's good...

I'm not stepping through that door that WWJD just opened though!  I'm religiously "spent"!  
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Michelle: Just from a cinema-experience point of view, the movie is awesome. Very graphic though, not for the faint hearted at the sight of blood and torture.

Tom.
 
...opening a can of worms WWJD?  
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I haven't seen the movie, but would like to...I'll be one of those going in to it with more of the "entertainment" aspect than religious...that's not to say I won't feel for what I'm seeing, but I won't be drawn in like others because my beliefs don't hold me fast to this moment, or non-moment (as WWJD points out) in history...I'm sure it's powerful to watch...the previews alone seem incredibly intense, and the word-of-mouth from those around me are that it's good...

I'm not stepping through that door that WWJD just opened though!  I'm religiously "spent"!  
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Michelle: Just from a cinema-experience point of view, the movie is awesome. Very graphic though, not for the faint hearted at the sight of blood and torture.

Tom.
Oh, blood and gore don't bother me...sick and twisted, I know, but if I know it's not real, as in a movie or book, I can hack it...can't stand the stuff like "Faces of Death" where real people and animals are dying...I'm not THAT sick and twisted!

I'm a huge gore fan, actually...I'm one of those twisted people that picks up that scary Stephen King, Dean Koontz or Clive Barker book once the hubby travels out of the country...I love being scared by movies and books...takes a lot though...

It looks like it'll be hard to watch for anyone that feels compassion for the person being tortured...whether you're religious or not...I do want to see it though...
 
yo.  I'd like to interject some religious discussion here...  ya know in case the movie is based on fiction...  does anybody really think that the whole Jesus thing is just a well thought out ploy to help people deal better with death?  was Jesus some regular joe that listened to a lot of other priests in his day, tied it all up into one big happy covert operation, figured out all the angles so it would be followed forever after and then decided to sacrifice himself as part of the package so it would hold more validity?  all before the age of 35?  Heck I know 39 year olds that STILL don't have a clue about themselves, let alone all of humanity.  Were sheep herders back than SO SMART to come up with all this, gather writings together for a book, cover every little detail AND wrap it up into the best selling 'Self Help' ever created?  I believe they were all more worried about the next big sand storm or what they were going to kill for dinner.  How come none of our Rhode Scholars, Freuds, Dr Phil's etc have not come up with a bigger scam that is more sellable to the gullible American public than some 2000 year old, dusty, outdated, rule book claiming to be the devine inspiration from some HUGE being that science can not even determine if he exists or not?  then again, I'm still waiting for science to explain ANY fo the important things in life:  family, freinds, love, fun, joy...

Anyway, I guess people back then were frickin geniouses compaired to those uf us having go through 13 years of education and some even more.  Maybe I'm missign something.  It seems SO SIMPLISTIC that it is TOO easy.  Or I'm taited to look away from true simplicity?

How's THAT for "religious discussion"  
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i dont know but 40 writers wrote the 66 "little books" over a period of 1600 years. through wars ,genocide, famine, and disiese and if read in its entirety it still carries a common theme and does not contradict itself. (man does a good job of that)it points to the man Jesus. he just might be more than a lucky guy or a regular joe. i dont mean to judge or cause a debate, i just believe he is much bigger than a movie charicter.
 
The Passion of the Christ
Weekend gross: $76.2 M
more than all the other movies combined. Hollywood are you listening yet? Look at all those churchies with big deep pockets willing, nea, DRIVEN to give to support GOOD things in movies. Hollywood, think of how many of THESE people you miss churning out visual eye candy consisting of gore, sex, drugs... maybe start making better movies and you'll tap this hidden market! eh.. go ahead and produce what ever you want, but your numbed by e if you think Passion isn't sending a very clear message: "Hey! We got loads of cash! If you film it, we will come!"
 
going to see it tomorrow.

RSD - the 2nd hellraiser movie beats any freddie movie... "the doctor is in"

Revlon - Blade Runner is hugely underrated. I even bought the 4-disc pc game when it came out so I could experience the environment they created..... amazing!

not religious myself, but a movie like The Passion is something I expect to have alot of impact on me....
 
The Passion of the Christ
Weekend gross: $76.2 M
more than all the other movies combined.  Hollywood are you listening yet?  Look at all those churchies with big deep pockets willing, nea, DRIVEN to give to support GOOD things in movies.  Hollywood, think of how many of THESE people you miss churning out visual eye candy consisting of gore, sex, drugs...  maybe start making better movies and you'll tap this hidden market!  eh.. go ahead and produce what ever you want, but your numbed by e if you think Passion isn't sending a very clear message:  "Hey!  We got loads of cash!  If you film it, we will come!"
It was more like 125.2 million:

From Newsmax.com:

Monday, March 1, 2004
'Passion' Beats 'Return of the King' for Box Office Record

"The Lord of the Rings" is no match for the Lord. Updated figures show Mel Gibson's foreign-language "The Passion of the Christ" with a box office take of $125.2 million, the greatest debut in movie history by a film opening on a Wednesday.

The previous record holder, "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King," had $124.1 million.

Oh, how the studio bosses must be gnashing their teeth today after refusing to finance or distribute the movie.


"The total was almost $8 million more than Newmarket first estimated, because far more people turned out Sunday to see Gibson's grisly crucifixion re-creation than originally predicted," the Associated Press reported this afternoon, and the movie "is positioned to get even bigger as the Roman Catholic season of Lent leads up to Easter on April 11."


Bruce Davey, Gibson's partner at Icon Productions, said, "I think we'll see strong bookings leading up to Easter, and I would anticipate Easter would be a huge weekend."


Rob Schwartz of the distributor Newmarket predicted "The Passion" could gross up to $350 million in the United States and Canada alone.


The movie could have reached even more people if the cinemas hadn't been so foolish in limiting the number of the screens. Many showings have sold out. We saw "The Passion" Saturday at a googolplex in West Palm Beach, Fla., where people lined up at the mere two auditoriums that played it - the same number of screens the theater has devoted to such flops as "Gigli."

We checked out the other auditoriums showing such typical Tinseltown trash as "Twisted" and "Club Dread." Hardly anyone was in those theaters.
 
In one of the posts above the movie is described as being a foriegn language film. Is it not in English?

Cool if it is in actual Aramaic as spoken then.
 
Just got back from it. WAY cool. Do people still say 'way cool'? Yes, it's all spoken in aramic or hebrew.... I don't know, whatever the native language was... then subtitled with english and it WORKS PERFECTLY like that, cuz there is a lot of emotiion and action, not just reading dialog. It was very realistically bloody but I don't feel it was over the top for the times. The best part to me was the message it conveys about the whole thing: God's son sent as an example, what he WENT THROUGH... you know the drill
 
It's not in English? Cool.

I think that most historians and biblical scholars agree that Jesus most likely spoke Aramaic. If they made an attempt to use that language in the film, I'd say that makes for another nice touch of realism.

I'm sure I'll get around to seeing it. Though I might way for the crowds to get a little smaller.
 
thread ressurection..... sorry for the pun...
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saw the movie yesterday. cant get it off my mind. definitely going to see it again.
the hard part was telling myself the gore was fake, just a movie,,, but it really happened. rough.


need help here. one of the last things Jesus said, he raised his head and said "why do you _ me?"
what was it?? It is the only verbage I can't remember......
 
Matthew 27:46 At about three o'clock, Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" - New Living Translation
Is that the part? Keep in mind, writing words for a movie gives you liberties to embelish the phrasing.

Some will interpret that as being mad over his predicament. More say it's anguish over taking on the sins, and SEPERATION from 'Dad'. I say, what would YOU be screaming after going thru all that?
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Anyone else notice the REALISTIC portral of dental care during that time period?

Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani is a blast to yell at pep rallys too!
 
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