Tennessee Demonstrates Trend of Looser Gun Laws

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Tenn. demonstrates trend of looser guns laws - Life- msnbc.com

Tenn. demonstrates trend of looser guns laws
Shift in attitude, easing of restrictions attributed to powerful NRA lobby
from the Associated Press

updated 5:49 p.m. CT, Fri., Dec . 11, 2009
NASHVILLE, Tenn. - It's been the year of the gun in Tennessee. In a flurry of legislative action, handgun owners won the right to take their weapons onto sports fields and playgrounds and, at least briefly, into bars.

A change in leadership at the state Capitol helped open the doors to the gun-related bills and put Tennessee at the forefront of a largely unnoticed trend: In much of the country, it is getting easier to carry guns.

A nationwide review by The Associated Press found that over the last two years, 24 states, mostly in the South and West, have passed 47 laws loosening gun restrictions.

Among other things, legislatures have allowed firearms to be carried in cars, made it illegal to ask job candidates whether they own a gun and expanded agreements that make permits to carry handguns in one state valid in another.

The trend is attributed in large part to a push by the National Rifle Association. The NRA, which for years has blocked attempts in Washington to tighten firearms laws, has ramped up its efforts at the state level to chip away at gun restrictions.

"This is all a coordinated approach to respect that human, God-given right of self defense by law-abiding Americans," says Chris W. Cox, the NRA's chief lobbyist. "We'll rest when all 50 states allow and respect the right of law-abiding people to defend themselves from criminal attack."

Among the recent gun-friendly laws:

Arizona, Florida, Louisiana and Utah have made it illegal for businesses to bar their employees from storing guns in cars parked on company lots.
Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, South Carolina and Virginia have made some or all handgun permit information confidential.
Montana, Arizona and Kansas have allowed handgun permits to be issued to people who have had their felony convictions expunged or their full civil rights restored.
Tennessee and Montana have passed laws that exempt weapons made and owned in-state from federal restrictions. Tennessee is the home to Barrett Firearms Manufacturing, the maker of a .50-caliber shoulder-fired rifle that the company says can shoot bullets up to five miles and is banned in California.
The AP compiled the data on new laws from groups ranging from the Legal Community Against Violence, which advocates gun control, to the NRA.

Changes in attitude
Public attitudes toward gun control have shifted strongly over the past 50 years, according to Gallup polling. In 1959, 60 percent of respondents said they favored a ban on handguns expect for "police and other authorized persons." By last year, Gallup's most recent crime survey found 69 percent opposed such a ban.

The NRA boasts that almost all states grant handgun permits to people with clean criminal and psychological records. In 1987, only 10 states did. Only Wisconsin, Illinois and the District of Columbia now prohibit the practice entirely.

"The NRA has a stranglehold on a lot of state legislatures," said Kristin Rand, legislative director the Violence Policy Center, a gun control group in Washington. "They basically have convinced lawmakers they can cost them their seats, even though there's no real evidence to back that up."

Tennessee's new laws came after the Republican takeover of the General Assembly this year, but most other states that loosened restrictions didn't experience major partisan shifts. Most of the states where the new laws were enacted have large rural populations, where support for gun rights tends to cross party lines.

Loosening of laws?
While some states have tightened gun laws during the same period, the list of new restrictive laws is much shorter. In 2009 alone, more than three times as many laws were passed to make it easier on gun owners.

New Jersey's 2009 law limiting people to one handgun purchase per month is the most notable of the more restrictive laws. Other examples this year include Maryland's ban on concealed weapons on public transit and Maine's vote to give public universities and colleges the power to regulate firearms on campus.

The most contentious of Tennessee's new gun laws was one allowing handguns in bars and restaurants that serve alcohol. It took effect in July after lawmakers overrode a veto by the governor. Last month, a Nashville judge struck down the law as unconstitutionally vague, but supporters have vowed to pass it again.

Armed in places
A similar Arizona law that took effect in September allows people with concealed-weapons permits to bring their guns into bars and restaurants that haven't posted signs banning them.

While Tennessee's law was in place, many bars chose not to let customers bring guns in. Likewise, more than 70 communities have opted out of allowing guns in parks.

"People go in there and start drinking and then they want to start a fight. What are they going to do if they got a gun in their hand?" said Larry Speck, 69, who works at an auto repair shop in Memphis. "I've got a gun permit and I'm not carrying mine in there even if they have a law."

Chattanooga retiree Ken Hasse, 71, said he worries about the possible consequences of allowing people to carry their guns in places like parks. "It's going to tempt somebody to use one," he said.

Supporters of expanding handgun rights argue that people with state-issued permits are far less likely to commit crimes, and that more lawfully armed people cause a reduction in crime. Opponents fear that more guns could lead to more crime.

Flood of facts, acts
Academics are divided on the effects of liberalized handgun laws, and determining the impact is complicated by the move in several states to close handgun permit records.

A Violence Policy Center project has mined news reports to find that more than 100 people have been killed by holders of handgun-carry permits since 2007, including nine law enforcement officers. The project originally intended to list all gun crimes by permit holders, but there were too many to keep track of, Rand said.

"They shoot each other over parking spaces, at football games and at family events," Rand said. "The idea that you're making any place safer by injecting more guns is just completely contradicted by the facts."

The flood of legislative victories in Tennessee after many years of frustration now has some gun backers aiming for a whole new level of freedom: No permits at all.

The permit laws "are an extra burden on people to exercise essentially a constitutional right," said John Harris, executive director of the Tennessee Firearms Association.
 
I didn't post this as much to create another 2nd amendment troll as I did because this shop is nearby.

I thought the "100 deaths caused by permit holders" in the ENTIRE US was statistically near zero (not that any death isn't a tragedy) was positive, not negative as portrayed by the anti-gun lobby quote in the article. The whole idea of the law was so that a law-abiding permit holder could carry when he took his family to Applebees without having to worry about either breaking the law of having his gun stolen outside in his car while inside eating. The problem becomes in defining the difference between a resturaunt serving alcohol vs. a bar serving food. And, as long as the permit holder isn't drinking, why shouldn't he be able to carry? The criminals/thugs/punks that don't care if they break the law are anyway; the net effect being that the only ones who ARE carrying ARE the criminals. I expect and demand that permit holders keep control of themselves, or pay the price.

Permit holders here have to jump thru alot of hoops (background check/class/range time) to get a permit; if they get caught drinking while carrying, the SHOULD lose their permit and be charged with a crime under the existing laws. I'd like to see those statistics.

I sure hope that TN can gather some statistics that prove that crime has dropped because criminals have left the state for greener pastures (like, IL maybe) because their intended target can legally protect themselves. I think it's been proven in other states. And, in fact, physical crime in Nashville HAS dropped the last several years already (that tidbit was on the news just two nights ago).

Do I have a permit? Yes.
Do I carry all the time? No.
Have I earned the privilege to do so? You dang skippy.

Don't tell me it's not an individual right/issue (where are you ACLU when I need you?)
 
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I have my permit but never carry. I know a lot of guys that do carry and I see nothing wrong with that at all.
 
I have mine......depends of what I am doing if I carry or not...specially were im at, and all the commie laws here,...This is great news
 
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Tennessee and Montana have passed laws that exempt weapons made and owned in-state from federal restrictions. Tennessee is the home to Barrett Firearms Manufacturing, the maker of a .50-caliber shoulder-fired rifle that the company says can shoot bullets up to five miles and is banned in California.
The AP compiled the data on new laws from groups ranging from the Legal Community Against Violence, which advocates gun control, to the NRA.


I don't now about this law that exempt firearms from Federal Laws! I don't think you can get away with FullAuto or SBR,AOW,SBS and such without giving old Uncle Sam his cut. This seems to be something that will get someone in a lot of trouble.
 
I firmly believe that not knowing whether i am carrying a side arm or not in a state where i am, by law allowed to carry one is the best deterence to crime and being a victim of crime.

So do i carry? Maybe, maybe not....who wants to find out?
 
I misread the title and I thought it read loser not looser. I kept thinking what's wrong with these laws?

Here in VA it is pretty easy to get a CC permit, but just as easy for places to restrict your access to their place of business if you CC. This includes places that serve alcohol, not just bars.
 
The only reason I got a CCW permit was the possibility of being caught up in some gray area bull.. If a cop wants to be picky he/she can haul you off to jail for concealed weapon for some of the most stupid reasons.

A guy get pulled over by a Sheriffs Deputy and gets arrested for DUI. When the Deputy checks his vehicle before hauling him off he see something shiny reflecting from the center console. He inspects the contents and find it to be a nickle plated handgun. He adds a concealed weapon charge without permit to the guys DUI. The judge throws the CW charge out because the officer saw the guns reflection from the center console because the lid would not shut all the way.

Next case a guy is pulled over and arrested for DUI. He tells the State Trooper that he has a weapon in the car. The guy is standing beside the driver door and the pistol is on the passenger seat. The Trooper adds a CW charge because the guy was blocking his vision from sight of the handgun and the charge sticks in court. The guy is charged with both DUI and CW.

Why take the chance?
 
On July 16, Carroll dispatched his agency’s official response to the law passed in Tennessee — the BATFE asserts that “Federal law supersedes the Act, and all provisions of the Gun Control Act and the National Firearms Act, and their corresponding regulations, continue to apply.”

It will be interesting to see how Tennessee reacts to this official proclamation.


Like I said! A lot of people are going to get into some expensive trouble if they disregard BATFE laws anywhere!

Linky: Feds Declare Tennessee Gun Law Invalid
 
I have a concealed carry 'protection" permit...carry when I want to. I say exercise your rights or risk losing them.
 
I remember seeing Barret comment on the CA 50 cal ban and he said that since they were banning civilian purchase he was not selling to law enforcement either. I think he said that was what prompted him to build the rifle that fires the 338 lapua(I guess that right).

I know when I applied for my NFA stamp back in March there was no mention of a exception state of residence anywhere, but there was a mention of a big fine and somewhere around 10 years at Club Fed for violation.
 
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