Socialism and Panera Bread.

20 million people died in socialisms "forced labor camps"..... via the intellegencia in the formet Soviet union.... I see ure trying to draw a distinction... but really..... who cares? soooooo closely related.. based off the same ideology.
Again, the USSR nominally practiced communism, not socialism, and it wasn't true to it's Marxist ideological base.
Of course the distinction matters, maybe not to you, but wars have been fought over it.
 
This is political science 101. Thought you had a degree in that? Maybe they taught it different wherever you went to school
 
Stalins SU was the embodiment of the intelligencia…. marxist ideology applied.… socialism with an end goal of true communism... the end result was 20 million dead in forced labor camps.... 20 million tortured souls.. SLAVES of the state.... smh.
 
lol...…. really? true communism cannot exist...………….. that's the whole point...…. it wont work.... look at the list
This is getting boring. The countries you listed weren't socialist, or communist.
To say that something cannot exist because it hasn't existed is illogical. Nothing exists until it, well, exists.
 
This is getting boring. The countries you listed weren't socialist, or communist.
To say that something cannot exist because it hasn't existed is illogical. Nothing exists until it, well, exists.
lol.... ok... socialism HAS existed.... communism in a true working fashion gets brutal.... 20 million MORE people were forced into exile/IMPRISONED.
 
Stalins SU was the embodiment of the intelligencia…. marxist ideology applied.… socialism with an end goal of true communism... the end result was 20 million dead in forced labor camps.... 20 million tortured souls.. SLAVES of the state.... smh.
Patently untrue. Marxist ideology isn't socialism. Lololol.
And in the Soviet Union it wasn't equally applied, as Marx states it must be. Have you read any of his work?
 
Patently untrue. Marxist ideology isn't socialism. Lololol.
And in the Soviet Union it wasn't equally applied, as Marx states it must be. Have you read any of his work?
Marxism was the center foundation of the IDEA.... THE IDEA.... THE IDEA
 
20 million forced into labor camps/ 7 million murdered... ure trying to draw a distinction where its unnecassary
 
lol.... ok... socialism HAS existed.... communism in a true working fashion gets brutal.... 20 million MORE people were forced into exile/IMPRISONED.
You're wrong. According to Marx, revolution is required, and that may be violent.
 
under marx... the PUREST form.... capitalism gives way to socialism.... capitalism is an intermiediate….. : marx died a stateless man.
 
because one necessitates the other...… or the GOAL of the other....
Again, inaccurate. Communism and socialism do not have the same goals.
They. Are. Different.
Can't put it any more plainly than that. If you refuse to accept that, so be it. Fortunately the accuracy of the statement doesn't rest on your acceptance of it.
 
but nevertheless carl marx was a complicated man... he contemplated many things... here is a BRAZEN idea... In a letter to Vera Zasulich dated 8 March 1881, Marx contemplated the possibility of Russia's bypassing the capitalist stage of development and building communism on the basis of the common ownership of land characteristic of the village mir.[147][192] While admitting that Russia's rural "commune is the fulcrum of social regeneration in Russia", Marx also warned that in order for the mir to operate as a means for moving straight to the socialist stage without a preceding capitalist stage it "would first be necessary to eliminate the deleterious influences which are assailing it (the rural commune) from all sides".[193] Given the elimination of these pernicious influences, Marx allowed that "normal conditions of spontaneous development" of the rural commune could exist.[193] However, in the same letter to Vera Zasulich he points out that "at the core of the capitalist system ... lies the complete separation of the producer from the means of production".[193] In one of the drafts of this letter, Marx reveals his growing passion for anthropology, motivated by his belief that future communism would be a return on a higher level to the communism of our prehistoric past. He wrote that "the historical trend of our age is the fatal crisis which capitalist production has undergone in the European and American countries where it has reached its highest peak, a crisis that will end in its destruction, in the return of modern society to a higher form of the most archaic type – collective production and appropriation". He added that "the vitality of primitive communities was incomparably greater than that of Semitic, Greek, Roman, etc. societies, and, a fortiori, that of modern capitalist societies".[194] Before he died, Marx asked Engels to write up these ideas, which were published in 1884 under the title The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State.
 
under marx... the PUREST form.... capitalism gives way to socialism.... capitalism is an intermiediate….. : marx died a stateless man.
Capitalism must be overthrown by revolution according to Marx. It doesn't "give way" to anything. It consumes the very souls of those who participate in it, this is what causes their alienation. Have you read Marx??
 
from Wikipedia...… Communism and socialism are economic and political structures that promote equality and seek to eliminate social classes. The two are interchangeable in some ways, but different in others.In a communist society, the working class owns everything, and everyone works toward the same communal goal.
 
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