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Hey guys. It looks like my headstock stand prototype is getting closer and closer to production as you can see. I was wondering if anybody knows of a means by which I might coat/plate these triple tree machined pins so they don't rust without outsourcing that part of the production?

Ian
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Something industrial that you can do without outsourcing...Just an idea off the top of my head:

If you want a durable finish you can try spray on truck bed liner. The stuff that (and I really, really hate to give them a plug) Wurth sells is really good stuff. A few benefits would be that you get a nice non-slip texture for handling ease, another is that it won't spark if struck with a tool or dropped, it will have some non-scratch characteristics, and it's pretty easy to apply. Oh, and it's chemically resistant to just about everything but paint stripper.
 
RedlineStands said:
Hey guys. It looks like my headstock stand prototype is getting closer and closer to production as you can see. I was wondering if anybody knows of a means by which I might coat/plate these triple tree machined pins so they don't rust without outsourcing that part of the production?

Ian
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How about machining the pins out of stainless and skipping the coating.
 
Whatever ya choose they'll be smokin I know that! Hi Ian!:thumbsup:
 
Plating yourself? You could look like this:

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:D

--Wag--
 
Aluminum and Stainless? I wish! I first machined these pins from 918 steel and they bent under the torque of the bike's weight like hot butter! I proceeded to get stronger and stronger steel each time testing that material. I've tried heat treating these metals in several different fashions. I finally selected a material that is so strong that it will hold up a busa even with a rider sitting on the bike. I won't tell you what that steel is but it's way stronger than stainless. I'd love to be able to use stainless but that stuff would fold like money under the weight. I also can't use any type of thick coating because there's only about 5 thousanths of an inch to spare for the coating/plating....at most. I'll check Eastwood and Ebay for kits. Thanks for the idea!

Ian
 
Well that leaves Titanium for pins... :whistle:

might check with your metal supplier for something like beryllium but not sure of costs.. it is used in cases where high strength is needed and no sparks.. (I have a couple wrenches made of the stuff) and is ultra strong.. Chromoly could be another option, our race chassis were built exclusively of this..
 
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Mr Biscuit said:
Well that leaves Titanium for pins... :whistle:

might check with your metal supplier for something like beryllium but not sure of costs.. it is used in cases where high strength is needed and no sparks.. (I have a couple wrenches made of the stuff) and is ultra strong.. Chromoly could be another option, our race chassis were built exclusively of this..
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Beryllium is very strong but is VERY expensive. Mainly due to the strict procedures for machining. It also has its own disease. Berylliosis(sp?)

Berylliosis
 
BusaBret said:
Beryllium is very strong but is VERY expensive. Mainly due to the strict procedures for machining. It also has its own disease. Berylliosis(sp?)

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probably only happens in California..

:laugh: only place shooting a gun will give you cancer too..
 
We usually use a zinc coating with a black dichromate dip over that for any of our hardware that must live outside. It adds about .0004" and is cheap. This will easily pass the 96 hour salt-fog spec used by most ag equipment manufacturers.

We have a local place do them and it's pretty cheap - you should be able to find a plater somewhere near you and get a quote. PM me if you want an actual print of what we use.
 
Mr Biscuit said:
Well that leaves Titanium for pins... :whistle:

might check with your metal supplier for something like beryllium but not sure of costs.. it is used in cases where high strength is needed and no sparks.. (I have a couple wrenches made of the stuff) and is ultra strong.. Chromoly could be another option, our race chassis were built exclusively of this..
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I would stay away from the beryllium, it can cause chronic beryllium disease. The only cure is death.
 
dadofthree said:
I would stay away from the beryllium, it can cause chronic beryllium disease. The only cure is death.
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WOW, just read up on this chit.......stuff is Brutal!! Where is this stuff mainly used?, never heard of it before, and i've been a mechanic all my life......
 
RedlineStands said:
Aluminum and Stainless? I wish! I first machined these pins from 918 steel and they bent under the torque of the bike's weight like hot butter! I proceeded to get stronger and stronger steel each time testing that material. I've tried heat treating these metals in several different fashions. I finally selected a material that is so strong that it will hold up a busa even with a rider sitting on the bike. I won't tell you what that steel is but it's way stronger than stainless. I'd love to be able to use stainless but that stuff would fold like money under the weight. I also can't use any type of thick coating because there's only about 5 thousanths of an inch to spare for the coating/plating....at most. I'll check Eastwood and Ebay for kits. Thanks for the idea!

Ian
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Guess your using "UN-ATAIN-E-UM" :laugh:
 
I replaced PitBull steal pin #6 with 6061 aluminum pin and it works great.

Can you post a picture of that stand head so we can see why you bended your steel pin?
 
I think the fear about beryllium poisoning might be a bit blown out of proportion guys... like saying you are going to get black lung from using coal in your furnace.. Or as in CA, lead poisoning from firing a gun in an indoor range (yes CA says you can get poisoned from firing a gun at an indoor range :laugh: )

beryllium tools are used in a large number of apps where danger of sparks are an issue (is why it is used in the first place)
 
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