Obamacare

GNBRETT

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the thought of of having a national healthcare system with the name OBAMA attached to it makes me sick to my stomach! this moron is so TOXIC to our nation and an absolute bafoon! god I cant wait him to leave office! "look at me I invented OBAMAcare..... while raising the national debt 6 trillion dollars!" "im all about saving money" lmao!

talk about socialism at its worst. obama sounds like a little 3 yr old. "im not negotiating with anyone, this is my healthcare plan that I and congress are exempt from but the rest of you will have to endure it." if its so good obama then why are you not taking part in it? what a schmuck!

a REAL president would be negotiating to find a happy medium but not this moron....:whistle: this is what happens when you elect a politician with very little experience governing. I can only imagine the people that voted for him shaking their head saying "wow what was I thinking."
 
Not an attempt to bash the current president on my part but he makes it really easy to see that he is so fickle. Here is a link to snopes in which as a senator he was all about financial responsibility and not raising the debt limit, seems the only thing that has changed is the president himself...

snopes.com: Obama on the Debt Limit
 
Has anyone read the stipulations that if a married couple is subject to OBAMAscare it costs them 2x as much as a couple "cohabitating"? I heard about this but haven't researched it yet.
 
You guys got all your facts mixed up. This is not social medicine. It private insurance companies writing these policies not the government. At which by the way i'm sure they are going to make a lot of money. There have been 18 increases to the debt ceiling between February 1981 and September 1987. In other words, there were 18 under President Ronald Reagan. And there were seven increases between January 2001 and January 2009 -- during George W. Bush's presidency. We should also note that it has been raised three times already under President Obama, on Feb. 17, 2009, Dec. 28, 2009 and Feb. 12, 2010. It's a fact of life in the government.
Reagan nearly tripled the federal budget deficit. During the Reagan years, the debt increased to nearly $3 trillion, roughly three times as much as the first 80 years of the century had done altogether. So don't give this Obama Bullsh&*t
 
You guys got all your facts mixed up. This is not social medicine. It private insurance companies writing these policies not the government. At which by the way i'm sure they are going to make a lot of money. There have been 18 increases to the debt ceiling between February 1981 and September 1987. In other words, there were 18 under President Ronald Reagan. And there were seven increases between January 2001 and January 2009 -- during George W. Bush's presidency. We should also note that it has been raised three times already under President Obama, on Feb. 17, 2009, Dec. 28, 2009 and Feb. 12, 2010. It's a fact of life in the government.
Reagan nearly tripled the federal budget deficit. During the Reagan years, the debt increased to nearly $3 trillion, roughly three times as much as the first 80 years of the century had done altogether. So don't give this Obama Bullsh&*t

Yep, other presidents have increased the debt limit but not anywhere near the cost under the leadership of president Obama... Let me find a link to a great video that explains it better than I ever can...
 
Hey Cap, I'd say that explains the issue in layman's terms so even the weak of mind can understand the importance of the nations checkbook! :goodidea:
 
whoa...Under Obama's administration, the debt limit has been raised more than ALL THE PREVIOUS DEBT LIMITS C O M B I N E D ...so do you really wanna use THAT arguement?
 
You guys got all your facts mixed up. This is not social medicine. It private insurance companies writing these policies not the government. At which by the way i'm sure they are going to make a lot of money. There have been 18 increases to the debt ceiling between February 1981 and September 1987. In other words, there were 18 under President Ronald Reagan. And there were seven increases between January 2001 and January 2009 -- during George W. Bush's presidency. We should also note that it has been raised three times already under President Obama, on Feb. 17, 2009, Dec. 28, 2009 and Feb. 12, 2010. It's a fact of life in the government.
Reagan nearly tripled the federal budget deficit. During the Reagan years, the debt increased to nearly $3 trillion, roughly three times as much as the first 80 years of the century had done altogether. So don't give this Obama Bullsh&*t
Sorry friend but in my calculator 3 trillion and 19 trillion represent a tremendous difference ..... The 3 trillion was erased from memory with a Republican Congress, house and senate and Bill Clinton as president. Does anyone see us pulling out of this one ?
 
Luckily I am not impacted by this socialist experiment with the masses but I do feel bad for those of you that are. Things are going to get interesting in the next 10 years. I wish I was 20 years younger so I could fully enjoy the fireworks. The repubs and democrats are two branches of the same Mafia family, read up on the RICO statute and tell me these two parties don't deserve to get prosecuted. I am personally an isolationist, only believe in sending the military outside the borders to do the killing of people that attack us, unfortunately the way we are going down the tubes we wont be able to even defend ourselves as a country. We need to get back to the basics our country was founded on, the US Constitution, if iots not in the Constitution the Feds shouldn't be doing it. Stated can do all the extras, like welfare, social security, but they will need to balance their budgets every year, they cant print money like the out of control and un Constitutional Federal Government.
 
I think Winston nailed it:

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”
Winston Churchill
 
The healthcare bill is at best insurance reform...and some of the basic testing may as well be stated as lowering the standards as far as preventative medicine. Once people who get a card start making appointments there will be a waiting list to get into the waiting room
 
Obamacare is a plan to help accelerate the BK of the US while killing off as many US citizens as possible. Some people will say the US can't go BK for numerous reasons having to do with national sovereignty. Most of us don't know the real inner forces of politics and would shudder if they found out. This is a plan to obliterate our country. Even the SC has been bought off to help facilitate this evil act. The sad part in all of this is it will be a gigantic fail for the US and eventually the world. Eugenics is an evil dark horse.
 
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