Making 6 psi now, what’s needed for 15-20?

[Jake whitebird]

Inquiring with powerhouse, and my tuner. As she sits, 6 psi unopened 08 making 256/118 ecu editor and ecu reflashed. Top end kit in the works, pistons valves etc. but can I increase boost there, or does that just make my 6 safer? If I do rods as well, I was leaning towards like a 15psi street monster then whatever is allowable on gen 2 injectors for track mode, like on a map switch. Let me know if I’m even on the right path here!

 

[shade]

If you're going to open the motor up might as well get the other stuff done.
Rods
Bigger head studs
Pistons and valves as you said
Stronger clutch springs.
Slave support.
I'd go with bigger injectors it's not that expensive.
Intercool it. While water injection is ok intercooling IMO you can run more boost on pump gas

This is the route I went and couldn't be happier. Bike pushes 20psi and doesn't break a sweat.

In regards to your question about top end making your 6 psi safer...a drop in compression from the new Pistons will have less chance of detonation. Just intercool it don't ever have to worry about it again and you can turn the boost way the F up

 

[Jake whitebird]

Where the hell do you fit an IC on this thing lol radiator is being cut now. Springs are in with welded mod, and support is on as well.

 

[shade]

Intercooler is built into the plenum. The heat exchanger goes in front of the radiator and is about 1/3 the size of the radiator. Go to RCCs website and look at the intercooler. Excellent piece of work.

 

[ali123]

at 4 grand(intercooler).... that's a lot of money... he could get his whole motor built for that money.... then save up for the intercooler.... HELL... if money is no object.. get a super ultra kit... done... 40 lbs of boost.... IMHO.. call frank and have a conversation... hes a great mind when it comes to this stuff and IMHO a great tuner... tell him what u gotr for money and what your plans are.... plan it out...

 

[ali123]

I bought a bike with an ultra kit on it... and its waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy over my head.. thank god Frank is honest... he could tell me just about anything and id believe it... get with the best right now before its too late and you cant talk him into getting involved,

 

[ali123]

If you're going to open the motor up might as well get the other stuff done.
Rods
Bigger head studs
Pistons and valves as you said
Stronger clutch springs.
Slave support.
I'd go with bigger injectors it's not that expensive.
Intercool it. While water injection is ok intercooling IMO you can run more boost on pump gas

This is the route I went and couldn't be happier. Bike pushes 20psi and doesn't break a sweat.

In regards to your question about top end making your 6 psi safer...a drop in compression from the new Pistons will have less chance of detonation. Just intercool it don't ever have to worry about it again and you can turn the boost way the F up

up to about 20 pounds of boost... beyond that c16....

 

[RansomT]

I surely wouldn't tune a turbo bike to 13:1 AFR!

 

[Mathewrussell52]

Don’t forget a boost controller.

 

[ali123]

I surely wouldn't tune a turbo bike to 13:1 AFR!

SECOND THAT... U NEED A TURBO TUNE... 11.5 TO 1...... I JUST LOOKED AT THE GRAPH

 

[ali123]

Trying to be as polite as possible about this... but a REAL turbo guy wouldn't tune a turbo bike at 13 to 1 at 10 grand and above.... don't hurt that bike.

 

[Jake whitebird]

That’s why I posted the tune.... cause I know nothing about it!!

 

[ali123]

call powerhouse and see what frank says... until then... stay outta boost... tell him u need a tuner in ure area that knows turbo fundamentals.

 

[POWERHOUSE]

Your torque is down at least 20-25 pounds, both curves look terrible the air fuel is
Six pounds of boost on a stock Gen 2 is too high !

The first thing to do is get a different tuner, you are going to hurt the motor . . .

 

[Jake whitebird]

That’s what I wanted to hear! Quik Cycles in Denver is my next stop. They ride/build 300-500 hp bikes.

 

[Jake whitebird]

Still consulting with frank on a top end kit. If 6 psi is too high, how can a gen 2 be built to 280?

 

[POWERHOUSE]

Still consulting with frank on a top end kit. If 6 psi is too high, how can a gen 2 be built to 280?

The parts we are discussing for the top end will enable you to run 8 psi on pump and up to 15 on race fuel.

 

[ali123]

get the bike to frank.... itll probably be much less than u think it will and ull be able to sleep at night.

 

[ali123]

I surely wouldn't tune a turbo bike to 13:1 AFR!

I think he owes you a thank you... cause my eyes weren't gonna strain to see that air/fuel reading.. good eye... u probably saved him a motor

 

[darrell77]

Inquiring with powerhouse, and my tuner. As she sits, 6 psi unopened 08 making 256/118 ecu editor and ecu reflashed. Top end kit in the works, pistons valves etc. but can I increase boost there, or does that just make my 6 safer? If I do rods as well, I was leaning towards like a 15psi street monster then whatever is allowable on gen 2 injectors for track mode, like on a map switch. Let me know if I’m even on the right path here!View attachment 1578563View attachment 1578563

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