trackerronone
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Anyone have experience with installing laser jammers on busa? And are they worth the money,good system isn't cheap!
Laser jammers
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Sold Laser Jammers for many years. Speed Cheetah was the only game in town that made the M27 specific system designed for motorcyclists. Cheetah is a Scottish company that specialized in Laser Jammers, GPS Locaters, Speed Camera detection and other related products. Cheetah products are manufactured in Scandanavia They were about $700 and I sold a bunch of them but not a lot. You have to be motivated (ie pissed off that you just got a ticket) to spend that kind of money. I did sell them to local riders in CA that adapted them to their own bikes. The jammer heads are very small- about 1/2" x 6". One for front, one for rear. SpeedCheetah is still around but have pulled out of the USA Market. I don't think they have a USA Distributor anymore. Adaptiv Tech that makes the Adaptiv Radar Detector took over and sold Laser Jammers under their brand that were sourced as Blinder components. But I don't think Adaptiv is selling that kit any more.
FAQs about Laser Jammers were common so I built a page just for that.
Are laser jammers legal?
Laser Jammers are legal in 80% of the United States, or 40 out of 50 states. There are no federal laws in the U.S.A. that prohibit the ownership and/or operation of laser jammers. However, some states have enacted their own laws that do prohibit the ownership and/or use of these devices. These states include: Nebraska, Minnesota, Utah, California, Oklahoma, Virginia, Colorado, Illinois and Washington DC.
Most countries in Europe ban the use of laser jammers but not the buying, owning or selling.
In the UK, it is illegal to use a laser jammer and if you are caught the typical penalty to expect is points and a fine.
How do laser guns work?
Laser (also known as LIDAR) guns fire a narrow beam of light in a straight line which is capable of recording a vehicle’s speed in less than one third of a second.
Police are trained to aim at the most reflective surfaces of a vehicle - generally the front number plate on an automobile or headlight on a motorcycle. Laser is the preferred mobile speed trap gun for urban conditions and on busy roads like motorways / interstates, because it gives a near instantaneous speed reading and it can pick out a single vehicle from a group of cars in heavy traffic because the laser beam only spreads slightly over the distance.
Some laser guns are theoretically capable of measuring the speed of a vehicle almost two miles away but in practice this is rarely done because it’s very hard to hit a moving target at that distance. A big factor in the range of a laser gun is often the limitation of the eyesight scope so most laser guns tend to be used at 1000 feet or less.
To be accurate, laser guns have to be stationary, steady, and aimed nearly straight on at the front or rear of the moving target so that’s why they are often set up on tables inside a camera van or mounted on tripods at the roadside. They are normally fired from road level on a long straight stretch of road, but they can also be used from motorway bridges, provided the user has first calculated the minimum firing range based on their height above the road.
Why won't my laser detector warn me in time?
Laser detection can help and it’s certainly better than nothing but it is not the guaranteed protection that many people assume.
A Laser detector can only warn you when it detects the presence of the laser beam (i.e. when it is in the line of fire of the beam.) However, a laser gun can record a vehicle’s speed in less than a third of a second, so by the time you receive an alert from a detector, your speed may already have been recorded. If yours is the first car targeted, it’s already too late by the time you receive a warning.
Also, if the laser gun is fired from a motorway over-bridge, the chances of you detecting the presence of the signal in advance are greatly reduced because of the angle that the beam is being fired at, into the ground.
In some circumstances you may not get a warning at all from a laser detector. Most laser detectors are placed inside the vehicle, mounted on the dashboard or windscreen. If the laser gun is fired at the car at short distance, the beam may not have spread sufficiently wide enough for any of the signal to come past the bonnet of the car and enter the windscreen to hit the laser detector.
What is a laser jammer and how do they work?
Laser jammers (also known as laser diffusers) were developed because laser detection was not enough.
Laser jammers are designed to stop a laser from recording your speed for a short period. giving motorcyclists time to adjust their speed safely. They give you a visual and audio alert so you have time to check your speed and, if necessary, safely reduce your speed to the posted limit, before getting a ticket. The manufacturers’ purpose is not to encourage speeding, but to allow people who are following the flow of traffic or who have drifted above the speed limit to adjust to the proper speed before being fined.
Jammers work by recognising which laser has been fired at your car and then transmitting it’s own matching infra-red or laser signal back towards the laser gun. The jammer’s signal confuses the gun, which is unable to calculate the speed of the vehicle and displays an error message or quite simply no speed reading.
It is perfectly normal for an officer using a laser gun to receive error messages all the time, even on cars without jammers, just because the signal has not bounced back correctly. It is not unusual for an operator to have to fire two or three times at a vehicle to obtain a reading. These normal error messages are what jammers replicate.
Diffusers are only effective against laser guns and do not work to detect or interfere with radar guns or any other kind of camera system, like GATSO, Truvelo or SPECS, etc.
Can you see the blinder head?
FAQs about Laser Jammers were common so I built a page just for that.
Are laser jammers legal?
Laser Jammers are legal in 80% of the United States, or 40 out of 50 states. There are no federal laws in the U.S.A. that prohibit the ownership and/or operation of laser jammers. However, some states have enacted their own laws that do prohibit the ownership and/or use of these devices. These states include: Nebraska, Minnesota, Utah, California, Oklahoma, Virginia, Colorado, Illinois and Washington DC.
Most countries in Europe ban the use of laser jammers but not the buying, owning or selling.
In the UK, it is illegal to use a laser jammer and if you are caught the typical penalty to expect is points and a fine.
How do laser guns work?
Laser (also known as LIDAR) guns fire a narrow beam of light in a straight line which is capable of recording a vehicle’s speed in less than one third of a second.
Police are trained to aim at the most reflective surfaces of a vehicle - generally the front number plate on an automobile or headlight on a motorcycle. Laser is the preferred mobile speed trap gun for urban conditions and on busy roads like motorways / interstates, because it gives a near instantaneous speed reading and it can pick out a single vehicle from a group of cars in heavy traffic because the laser beam only spreads slightly over the distance.
Some laser guns are theoretically capable of measuring the speed of a vehicle almost two miles away but in practice this is rarely done because it’s very hard to hit a moving target at that distance. A big factor in the range of a laser gun is often the limitation of the eyesight scope so most laser guns tend to be used at 1000 feet or less.
To be accurate, laser guns have to be stationary, steady, and aimed nearly straight on at the front or rear of the moving target so that’s why they are often set up on tables inside a camera van or mounted on tripods at the roadside. They are normally fired from road level on a long straight stretch of road, but they can also be used from motorway bridges, provided the user has first calculated the minimum firing range based on their height above the road.
Why won't my laser detector warn me in time?
Laser detection can help and it’s certainly better than nothing but it is not the guaranteed protection that many people assume.
A Laser detector can only warn you when it detects the presence of the laser beam (i.e. when it is in the line of fire of the beam.) However, a laser gun can record a vehicle’s speed in less than a third of a second, so by the time you receive an alert from a detector, your speed may already have been recorded. If yours is the first car targeted, it’s already too late by the time you receive a warning.
Also, if the laser gun is fired from a motorway over-bridge, the chances of you detecting the presence of the signal in advance are greatly reduced because of the angle that the beam is being fired at, into the ground.
In some circumstances you may not get a warning at all from a laser detector. Most laser detectors are placed inside the vehicle, mounted on the dashboard or windscreen. If the laser gun is fired at the car at short distance, the beam may not have spread sufficiently wide enough for any of the signal to come past the bonnet of the car and enter the windscreen to hit the laser detector.
What is a laser jammer and how do they work?
Laser jammers (also known as laser diffusers) were developed because laser detection was not enough.
Laser jammers are designed to stop a laser from recording your speed for a short period. giving motorcyclists time to adjust their speed safely. They give you a visual and audio alert so you have time to check your speed and, if necessary, safely reduce your speed to the posted limit, before getting a ticket. The manufacturers’ purpose is not to encourage speeding, but to allow people who are following the flow of traffic or who have drifted above the speed limit to adjust to the proper speed before being fined.
Jammers work by recognising which laser has been fired at your car and then transmitting it’s own matching infra-red or laser signal back towards the laser gun. The jammer’s signal confuses the gun, which is unable to calculate the speed of the vehicle and displays an error message or quite simply no speed reading.
It is perfectly normal for an officer using a laser gun to receive error messages all the time, even on cars without jammers, just because the signal has not bounced back correctly. It is not unusual for an operator to have to fire two or three times at a vehicle to obtain a reading. These normal error messages are what jammers replicate.
Diffusers are only effective against laser guns and do not work to detect or interfere with radar guns or any other kind of camera system, like GATSO, Truvelo or SPECS, etc.
Can you see the blinder head?
trackerronone
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Just wondering if anyone has laser jammers mounted to there bike. It seems like the best ones are made by Anti Laser Priority. Seems there one of the few who claims they can jam the new dragon eye. Anyone have any experience where they were hit with laser and jammers saved them from a ticket..with the busa I'm finding it's way to easy to be cruising way above the speed limit and I've read it can be very costly,way more then a jammer setup
ali123
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good man... at least YOU have some humility and admit when ure wrong.
ottafish
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The ALPriority ones get the best ratings here in Australia. Over here they're marketed as "parking sensors" as they can also be used for that purpose. As such, there is no law at the moment stopping you from using them. There's even companies here that sell complete kits withe the ALp and a Bell or Escort RD and bluetooth interfaces. We have one state where you can purchase from. RD's are illegal in most states here, so the non detectable ones with a fast remove from the mount and hide are the go
jermzfree
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The hp-905 runs $500 and does not have a motorcycle kit available. With some relays you can mod up an alarm or light to go off when a cop shoots his lidar gun at you. Worth the money? YES!
trackerronone
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Does he 905 jam the new dragon eye laser?
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jermzfree
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Depends when the gun came out. They do have firmware updates for new guns. Check on the website for the latest firmware update.
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