Laser jammer: Worthwhile or worthless on a bike?

jay21112

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Alright, thinking about putting some electronics on the bike in the next few months.

Already going in is a passport 8500 right under the clear windscreen hooked up to a HARD unit. But I've been toying with the idea of a laser shifter like the escort ZR3.

So, the first question is: Is it worthwhile, considering the following:

1.) Bike's are quite a bit smaller than cars, and therefore it should take a little longer for a cop to get a signal because it should be tough to get a good lock on the bike. (Should is the operating word here.)

2.) I'll already have a radar/laser detector which may give me a second or two more notice (only if he's picking off people in front of me, if I'm alone on the road and he waits till I go by to light me up, I know this won't help me here).

3.) The throttle on the bike is a little more responsive than the gas pedal on a car. IE: If I see the cop and let off the throttle and hit the brakes, I should be able to scrub off a lot of speed (Won't help if I'm in the high 100's obviously.)

4.) I like to go fast.....really fast....when there is no traffic and the road is straight and the conditions are right....really fast.... (Perfect opportunity to get picked off)

5.) Which brings me to my second question: Where to mount the front jammers.  Because the front of the bike is so small, where would an effective place to mount them be, if worthwhile?
- I saw a post a while back about someone mounting 1 front receiver under the nose. However they said this was not safe, especially if you lower the bike (which I want to do) because there is not much clearance there, and on a crappy street the fender would smash the unit.
- I saw another post of someone mounting it in the bottom of the (cleared) windscreen. This looks like a good solution, but is it good enough.
-Where could you mount the other one up front?...Think about this: Cutting out two spaces in the cowl on either side of the headlight (vetically) and mounting the jammers in there. Therefore you would have a jammer (mounted vertically) on either side of the headlight...which is where (I have been told) cops will aim their laser gun. Would that be doable??

OK, what are your thoughts guys. I think Iceman and KS-waterbug have some experience in this area and I would love some imput from you guys.

So, in recap, is it worth it on a bike, (please lets not get int weather or not they work because we will take it for granted that they do....but do they work good enough for a bike taking into consideration the differences between the engineering and driving of a car and a bike.) And....where to mount the front jammers, taking note of my vertical mount idea.



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4.) I like to go fast.....really fast....when there is no traffic and the road is straight and the conditions are right....really fast.... (Perfect opportunity to get picked off)[/QUOTE]

ALWAYS have a rabbit in front of you. Its the only way to have adequate warning time. Remember, your reaction time is never faster than a light/radio wave, unless you've managed to circumvent general relativity
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Mount your laser in the nose. Kento-Moto is in the middle of the same upgrade. I'm sure he'd give you a tip or 2.
 
I mounted mine under the nose first and it will hit the fender.
Then I fabricated custom windshield and put one jummer there. No need for second jummer and you can safe some money buying just one. I bought 2 and second just sitting in my garage.
There is very few laser guns in Colorado, now I know that for sure and yes it works. It saved me couple tickets for sure.
Look on cops face is priceless..
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Try search button, I already posted a bunch of pics of mine install.

Ohh.. and that would be a Blinder M20, don`t bother with Passport shifter. I also have Passport8500, that one saved me at least 50 times.
 
I mounted mine under the nose first and it will hit the fender.
Then I fabricated custom windshield and put one jummer there. No need for second jummer and you can safe some money buying just one. I bought 2 and second just sitting in my garage.
There is very few laser guns in Colorado, now I know that for sure and yes it works. It saved me couple tickets for sure.
Look on cops face is priceless..
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Try search button, I already posted a bunch of pics of mine install.

Ohh.. and that would be a Blinder M20, don`t bother with Passport shifter. I also have Passport8500, that one saved me at least 50 times.
I did a search and I didn't find any write-ups by you. What was the topic title, so I can do another search?

I think your bike is the one I mentioned that put the receiver in the windshield. So that has worked for you? You don't think another is necessary?

Why do you recommend the Blinder M20 over the Escort shifter?
 
There is very few laser guns in Colorado, now I know that for sure and yes it works. It saved me couple tickets for sure.
Look on cops face is priceless.. [/QUOTE]
What does the cop see on his end?
 
I think your bike is the one I mentioned that put the receiver in the windshield. So that has worked for you? You don't think another is necessary?

Why do you recommend the Blinder M20 over the Escort shifter?
I did my research, Blinder is better. lidatek should be even better shortly. It uses the same laser diode police speed guns use.

go to radarbusters.com they also have a user forum, a bunch of guys who installed everything they can and driving cops crazy.... very entertaining..
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What is percentage of those? 0.05% ? Thank god cops don`t have money for the new toys... Some still use K band, I`d say about 50% here in CO.
 
So, Vic, you are saying mounting the blinder in the windscreen would be an as good or if not better solution than mounting the Escort on either side of the headlight (vertically)?
 
Is it worth it, Well  
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in Oklahoma it's worth a little JAIL time for using one. Radar detectors are OK, jammers or speed manipulators are not legal here. My favorite is a Valentine One, of course I never use one since I never speed
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. It's just for small city travel  
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don't ya know    
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Val1 is way overrated... more sensitive and WAY more false alarms. I know I have both. It also bigger then 8500.

A while ago one cop asked me what it is under my screen (BlinderM20) I said
" hmmm, I thought you recognize GPS reseiver....
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He said... Ohhh... right.... of course...
 
I have had this setup since 03
lower mounted zr3 is on a bracket I made out of polycarbonate
extended out slightly from the nose so as not to impact the fender.
My bike is lowered in the front 1 inch
The top zr3 is mounted in a acrylic bracket mounted to the inside of the screen, it also houses my passport 8500 X50 and as you can see I have cut a vent shape hole for the emmitter to work through (no effects on aero's and no wind noise).
I have the rear ZR3 mounted to the bottom of the numberplate.
The ZR3 has never been to the test yet but the Passport as saved me numerous times.

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What about inside the cow induction vents..I put a set of neons in mine works great...can you get the jammer piece in there without cutting off alot of air?
 
nope, Blinder is too big... Lidatec is smaller.

one more thing to consider.
Jammer MUST be horizontal +/- 3 degree. It has level in front for easy checking.
 
I don't like the setup of the ZR3 under the nose.
It's way to obtrusive and obvious there.
However I do like the setup under the windshield with the Passport and jammer under there.

Any idea if just putting them behind the stock (slightly smoked) windscreen would hinder them at all?

Also as for systems:
The Escort ZR3 is $500 for 2 front and 1 rear transponder
The Beltronics Laser pro is $500 for 2 front and 1 rear transponder.
the Lidatek is $400 for 1 front transponder.
The Blinder m-20 is $300 for 1 front and 1 rear transponder.

It seems like the best buy above would be the Blinder, because all I really need is one in the front, but it would be nice to have one in the rear as well. But the question becomes is the Lidatek that much better than the rest?
 
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