K8 - upgrade time, go faster bits

moochofun

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Hi there,

I have a K8 engine that I run in my little Westfield sportscar and I use it primarily for sprint and hillclimbs in the UK. The engine is currently in standard trim with the addtion of a power commander 3 usb, pipercross sausage air filter and a TRE via a gear indicator. A Walbro 225l/hr fuel pump is fitted and regulated with an Aeromotive regulator and the clutch springs are some heavy duty Barnett items. The engine has a lowered, billet sump and baffle plate fitted - no Accusump or dry sump setup.

My plan for the winter this year is to upgrade the engine to move up a couple of classes for next years racing and am looking for a little help and guidance for the tuning side. From the few searches that I've done already although there is great info available sometimes its a little conflicting or the posts were done a couple of years ago and parts/ideas may have changed accordingly. Anyway, my plan is as follows:

* TTS Supercharger kit - bigger Rotrex C30-94 blower
* New pistons and rods to lower compression - likely is Wiseco turbo pistons (9.5:1 compression ratio) with Carillo rods. Does this sound right?
* I'm also thinking of going for increased capacity with a 2mm overbore - should give +/-1407cc.
* Engine management - a stand alone management system, likely to be an MBE9A4 set up. This system has the added facility of logging, traction control and launch control over the current setup or with a power commander 5 with a secondary fuel module setup - and just as important, my local dyno has knowledge of this system and not the DynoJet stuff.

Now, this is where the guidance and advice part comes in. With the above mods I need advice on:

* Injectors - will the standard 8 injector setup work? Assuming I'm aiming for the full 400bhp quoted power claims from Rotrex (pulley dependant mind you). If not, what size do I go for? Do I replace the primaries, secondaries or both?
* Fuel regulator - will the aeromotive one be fine or do I need to upgrade to a multi role regulator?
* Clutch - will the heavy duty clutch springs I have fitted just now still be ok or do I need to go for something a bit sturdier to stop it exploding or slipping - if so then what? Billet clutch hub, lock-up clutch, slipper clutch??
* Intercooler - the cars will be used for standing starts and short bursts, around 5mins at a time on track and in paddock. Will I need an intercooler? If so, how do I specify what size I need?
* Blow off / dump valve - what sized spring so I require? How do you work out what size is required?

I'm pretty good with my hands and the manufacture and fit of brackets or parts etc is not an issue - I just lack the knowledge of the tuning side. I could probably find most of this out with extensive trawling through the internet or by contacting businesses but I'm hoping the knowledge base on here will save me that time. As always cash has a limit so I can't really afford to try a few different things so a good base set up is required. Am I aiming too high? Have I missed a step anywhere, anything else I should be looking at doing?

Thanks for now, and thanks in advance of any help :please:
 
Here ye go :beerchug:


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I'd love to own 1 but the laws here forbid kit cars. A local tire dealer bought 1 years back but couldn't get it registered for road use. We don't have a track here so I'd imagine the car would be a center piece in the guy's living room...
 
definitely goes on the list of cool stuff to do with a busa! Any chance of a video?

Yep, if you run a search on youtube for moochofun you'll find some vids of the car in action. Come to think of it I think they are all pre-busa install and are of the old 893cc blade engine that came with the car (CBR900RR - not sure if it was called the fireblade across the pond) ???

The later one's are in a single seater are with an ex F1 Cosworth DFR V8 which we run in the British Sprint Championship - now that is the berries :thumbsup:

Back on topic though - anybody help me out with the above? :please:
 
* Injectors - will the standard 8 injector setup work? Assuming I'm aiming for the full 400bhp quoted power claims from Rotrex (pulley dependant mind you). If not, what size do I go for? Do I replace the primaries, secondaries or both?

I have made 356 hp with stock injectors, 1:1 regulator, and 42 psi base fuel pressure on my 08 turbo with ECU controlling everything with a gm 3 bar map sensor. For 400 hp i would go with larger injectors, RCC turbos sells a nice rail that keeps stock lowers, and 650cc uppers, more than enough fuel for 400 hp, this is a great setup when used in conjunction with ecu flashing.

* Fuel regulator - will the aeromotive one be fine or do I need to upgrade to a multi role regulator?

That should be fine pending properly sized injectors

* Clutch - will the heavy duty clutch springs I have fitted just now still be ok or do I need to go for something a bit sturdier to stop it exploding or slipping - if so then what? Billet clutch hub, lock-up clutch, slipper clutch??

Stiff clutch springs, the APE super heavy duty work fine on a bike, you have a lot more load on the drivetrain though, a lockup would be a good addition in my opinion.

* Intercooler - the cars will be used for standing starts and short bursts, around 5mins at a time on track and in paddock. Will I need an intercooler? If so, how do I specify what size I need?

An intercooler is also a great idea, especially on a car as you have more room than on a bike, I dont know much on cooler sizing, I would talk with RCC turbos regarding that.
 
also, id pull that TRE off, or at least dis-able it on the gear indicator, assuming you have a way to reflash the 6t gear governor off or a highgain de-restrictor. 5th gear fueling in the lower gears isn't helping power any.
 
smithabusa - thank you for your advice, much appreciated and exactly the info I'm looking for :beerchug:

Looks like a call to RCC Turbo's will be on order.

Thanks again :bowdown:
 
Looks cool.

I am sure as a local you already know this, but just in case... Richard@TTS-performance (Northshampshire, 01327 858212) has started to use ecueditor.com this summer for tuning supercharged vehicles using stock ecu. If in UK, I would talk with him also about the new blower bracket and how to balance the rest of the kit with his blowers.
 
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