TheWheelman
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Thanks, and good points, i wish i would have never brought it up...
just turned 21, and busa will be first bike
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Rongotti
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that really wasnt to you man its cool. you say hey im 21 im getting a busa. My response would be be careful and take class. thats it not dont buy it get life insurance thats just jealousy cause certain people couldnt afford or didnt have the balls to get a busa when they were 21. i say props wish i had mine when i was younger thats just more time to enjoy it. Life is too short to be soft, play hard bro
TheWheelman
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I know you werent directing it at me. thanks for the encouragement, ill let you know how it turns out.
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Whats a TRE?
willgetbusa
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if you are physically big enough to handle a bike and have the mental capacity to learn how to ride safely, you should be fine starting on any bike.
i don't think you're crazy at all. not all of us start on a 50cc then move up in small increments. i've seen people been successful on bikes of all types, big and small because they had the patience to practice until they are truly ready for the streets, not getting sucked in by others' influence/style of riding, etc. i've also seen people crashed and burned in bikes big and small because they were riding beyond their skill level, trying to make a bike do things that it's not designed to do or tried to copy other riders.
some people don't realize that there's really no starter bike because any bike can hurt you if you don't have the responsibility to learn how to ride it safely.
Oh dear..
Did you happen to read the sticky that said "Thinking about a Hayabusa as a First Bike?" If you haven't, I suggest you do.
No matter how some people here seem to dislike you, we NEVER want to see a biker go down. It really sucks, because people ALWAYS blame the bikers, whether or not it's our fault.
You mentioned above that you considered bikes of lower displacement. The GSX-R is a sports bike. The Busa is a hypersport. Starting on a bike like the GSX-R is just a little bit better than learning to ride on a Busa.
Anyway, it's your decision in the end. As several people have said above, TAKE THE MSF SAFETY COURSE.
No matter what your decision is, ride safely, and keep the rubber side down.
Did you happen to read the sticky that said "Thinking about a Hayabusa as a First Bike?" If you haven't, I suggest you do.
No matter how some people here seem to dislike you, we NEVER want to see a biker go down. It really sucks, because people ALWAYS blame the bikers, whether or not it's our fault.
You mentioned above that you considered bikes of lower displacement. The GSX-R is a sports bike. The Busa is a hypersport. Starting on a bike like the GSX-R is just a little bit better than learning to ride on a Busa.
Anyway, it's your decision in the end. As several people have said above, TAKE THE MSF SAFETY COURSE.
No matter what your decision is, ride safely, and keep the rubber side down.
Guess you never made it south of Madison Ave in Chicago. You would have remembered the tail light of a Dunstall :~)
Just messin with ya.
TheWheelman
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Pashnit, Ive been to your site like 100 times, seriously, i love all the mods to your busa, I want a bike for several reasons, one of them is touring in southern colorado during the summer months, i live in extreme northwest new mexico during the summer, and i want to ride all the mountain roads up there...
Nice photo Tim, I did hwy 36, & 3 Hayfork, weaverville & trinity alps on saturday had an absolute blast!
You really think you have a grasp of the seriousness of riding the fastest sportbike -the likes of which the world had never seen until you were 15 years old?
You WILL go down, my friend. How many times has someone told you that? They say, it's not a matter of IF...it's WHEN!
Are you willing to accept that? I don't wish it upon you, I would never wish such a thing. But reality says its going to happen and if you dont know that, then you have no business getting into motorcycling.
And if you "are" smart, - you will realize that the statistics show that the odds of the "WHEN" happening to a rider are astronomically HIGHER during the first year of bike ridership. Meaning, - you will go down most likely in the next 12 months.
It may be a light lowside, (know what that is?) - it may be a result of too much front brake, or a rear wheel lockup...It may be a broadside t-bone by a car you thought could see you...etc....
A million things try to take us OFF our bikes.
The veteran riders, - er..those with at least a year or two of practical street riding in all weather situations and all traffic situations, and all street surfaces...have a lot better chances at overcoming the things that ARENT our fault, because we are more adept at noticing them because we arent overwhelmed by the simple functions of riding a bike.
You have the odds against you. If you are smart you will admit to yourself in the mirror that you will go down in the first 12 months. Might even be a dropped bike because of the balance youre not used to. Could drop it pulling into your driveway.
With that being said....
WHY? OH WHY? Would you want to break an expensive sportbike like a hayabusa? Or why would you want 500 extra cc's worth of reasons to be in over your head? You are a big guy, - cut your teeth on something else. Then step up when you have met the criteria.
It's like EVERY THING ELSE in life...natural progression...take it a step at a time.
Guys screw everything up by "learning" how to ride a motorcycle with a Hayabusa.
You buy a Hayabusa to "learn" to ride on, and you are a fool. Plain and simple.
Besides, if you are 6'4 - its unlikely that you are comfortable on a hayabusa. Sit on something else. The foot peg to knee relationship on a hayabusa is NOT for 6'4 tall riders.
I suspect that you might have straddled a busa with your 6'4" frame and had your feet flat on the ground and thought...."Hmmm this is very comfortable"....
Go back to the store, ask a salesman to help you and put your feet up on BOTH pegs like you do when you ride the bike. Then consider if its the only comfortable bike you have sat on.
Anyone here who told you it was okay, - probably told a million other people over the years exactly what I just said...and now they are tired of it, or they dont remember how much there is to know about motorcycling since they have been riding so long, its more than second nature to them.
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You WILL go down, my friend. How many times has someone told you that? They say, it's not a matter of IF...it's WHEN!
Are you willing to accept that? I don't wish it upon you, I would never wish such a thing. But reality says its going to happen and if you dont know that, then you have no business getting into motorcycling.
And if you "are" smart, - you will realize that the statistics show that the odds of the "WHEN" happening to a rider are astronomically HIGHER during the first year of bike ridership. Meaning, - you will go down most likely in the next 12 months.
It may be a light lowside, (know what that is?) - it may be a result of too much front brake, or a rear wheel lockup...It may be a broadside t-bone by a car you thought could see you...etc....
A million things try to take us OFF our bikes.
The veteran riders, - er..those with at least a year or two of practical street riding in all weather situations and all traffic situations, and all street surfaces...have a lot better chances at overcoming the things that ARENT our fault, because we are more adept at noticing them because we arent overwhelmed by the simple functions of riding a bike.
You have the odds against you. If you are smart you will admit to yourself in the mirror that you will go down in the first 12 months. Might even be a dropped bike because of the balance youre not used to. Could drop it pulling into your driveway.
With that being said....
WHY? OH WHY? Would you want to break an expensive sportbike like a hayabusa? Or why would you want 500 extra cc's worth of reasons to be in over your head? You are a big guy, - cut your teeth on something else. Then step up when you have met the criteria.
It's like EVERY THING ELSE in life...natural progression...take it a step at a time.
Guys screw everything up by "learning" how to ride a motorcycle with a Hayabusa.
You buy a Hayabusa to "learn" to ride on, and you are a fool. Plain and simple.
Besides, if you are 6'4 - its unlikely that you are comfortable on a hayabusa. Sit on something else. The foot peg to knee relationship on a hayabusa is NOT for 6'4 tall riders.
I suspect that you might have straddled a busa with your 6'4" frame and had your feet flat on the ground and thought...."Hmmm this is very comfortable"....
Go back to the store, ask a salesman to help you and put your feet up on BOTH pegs like you do when you ride the bike. Then consider if its the only comfortable bike you have sat on.
Anyone here who told you it was okay, - probably told a million other people over the years exactly what I just said...and now they are tired of it, or they dont remember how much there is to know about motorcycling since they have been riding so long, its more than second nature to them.
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Also, I dont care if you have a car with a million hp.
You would absolutely wreck right now -if I told you to ride any sportbike at 25 to 30mph, make a right turn and then an immediate left turn.
Done... New bike, please.
Do that on a busa? and your right hand will betray you during the direction change and open up throttle on you like you would never believe...and you will regret that it was the throttle of a busa, instead of a throttle on something less insane.
But wait, Oh yes, the man said he has a right to spend his cash on whatever he wants to...I wonder if he wants to spend it on fixing his bike, or fixing his tailbone and knees...or skin grafts.
By the way WHeelman...my comments to you are actually positive...though I noticed you referred to some of these posts as negative.
Negative on getting a busa, positive on helping you as a person.
If you take the MSF class, you might realize that there is a nice selection of bikes that will be more than pleasing to you while you learn the science of riding a bike. Its not like a bicycle, its the opposite...the brain doesnt know what to make a motorcycle do...especially after years of bicycling.
Get a bike you wont mind scratching up and put a couple thousands miles on it and a year later, get your busa.
I may sell you my 2005 RED BLACK next year, and I might get that zx14.
You would absolutely wreck right now -if I told you to ride any sportbike at 25 to 30mph, make a right turn and then an immediate left turn.
Done... New bike, please.
Do that on a busa? and your right hand will betray you during the direction change and open up throttle on you like you would never believe...and you will regret that it was the throttle of a busa, instead of a throttle on something less insane.
But wait, Oh yes, the man said he has a right to spend his cash on whatever he wants to...I wonder if he wants to spend it on fixing his bike, or fixing his tailbone and knees...or skin grafts.
By the way WHeelman...my comments to you are actually positive...though I noticed you referred to some of these posts as negative.
Negative on getting a busa, positive on helping you as a person.
If you take the MSF class, you might realize that there is a nice selection of bikes that will be more than pleasing to you while you learn the science of riding a bike. Its not like a bicycle, its the opposite...the brain doesnt know what to make a motorcycle do...especially after years of bicycling.
Get a bike you wont mind scratching up and put a couple thousands miles on it and a year later, get your busa.
I may sell you my 2005 RED BLACK next year, and I might get that zx14.
pashnit
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Wheels- if anything that Haya is saying sways you in any sense, I'd also consider reading this. It's a webpage I wrote about spending a 700 Mile Weekend on a Kawasaki Ninja 250, for the most part- the antithesis to the Busa. Fun lil webpage. I'm not saying go out and get yourself a Ninja 250, but the principle is there. Btw, there are numerous threads like this (including on my PashnitForum.com) on here and SH.org- might just point you to those see if you get anything out of it.
http://www.pashnitforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1145
http://www.pashnitforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1145
pashnit
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An interesting epilogue to this lil diddy I wrote up about that ride on the Kawasaki Ninja 250.
Got a inquiry from a Navy officer who's serving on an aircraft carrier, the USS Nimitz, in the Middle East right now. He's the safety officer for the Nimitz, and is also a fellow rider (FJR). He relays that many of the service persons serving aboard the ship are likely to purchase motorcycles on their return home to San Diego in a few months.
They are going to take this article and photos about the Ninja 250, and add it into the ship's intranet as a permanent part of the motorcycling information available to the sailors, pilots, Marines, etc. He adds they'd like to do this to encourage those that might be new to motorcycling to start out slow (i.e. a Ninja 250) and work up in displacement over time.
Pretty cool! Never know who's reading this stuff!
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At 21 you may very well be mature enough to handle such a machine. Before I turned 21.I had been married for 3 1/2 years, had 2 sons, served in Viet Nam and been in the service for almost 4 years. I would be one of the first to support young people and the notion that you may be mature enough to make good decisions. Riding skill is what we are talking about. Did you learn to drive in your cobra?My guess would be no. A hayabusa is like an ndy car on two wheels. not a good first bike. Not bustin your stones. Just trying to give you some good feedback.
Listen to HayaVegas and pashnit... if you're not a troll... Much wisdom, even if Haya delivers it "raw".
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