It's official, America is too PC

OK, let's focus on the main point that bugs me here...just answer this question.

Is there ever any reason to NOT wear or be proud of our American Flag?
 
OK, this particular case aside 1) because I wasn't there and 2) I have no idea what their intentions were, IF I were to walk the streets of any major city on Cinco De Mayo, wearing that t-shirt, should I be shunned, shot? Treated any differently than any other day?

I can surely respect the day and that others want to celebrate it, but by the same token, they should be able to respect that I opt to wear an American flag on my t-shirt. I'm not telling them they can't celebrate and they shouldn't be able to tell me to be "less-American" on that day. Sorry guys, I'm not budging my opinion on this. Being PC nowadays is expecting everyone around you to bend to YOUR beliefs. PC to me is to allow others to do what they will and for them to allow me the same in kind.

we all know you will not budge on your beliefs.....i heard the boys interview, and his intention was to disrupt the festivities.

but the question is:

if the flag was worn soley to disrupt a peaceful event, is it wrong?
 
we all know you will not budge on your beliefs.....i heard the boys interview, and his intention was to disrupt the festivities.

but the question is:

if the flag was worn soley to disrupt a peaceful event, is it wrong?

How can it be wrong to wear our Nation's Colors...in our own Nation?! :poke:
 
OK, let's focus on the main point that bugs me here...just answer this question.

Is there ever any reason to NOT wear or be proud of our American Flag?

they were not wearing the flag out of pride, they were doing it to disrupt a peaceful event, to infringe on the rights of other citizens.
 
we all know you will not budge on your beliefs.....i heard the boys interview, and his intention was to disrupt the festivities.

but the question is:

if the flag was worn soley to disrupt a peaceful event, is it wrong?

I would agree that if a group wants to bring drama, yes, that's wrong, HOWEVER, the only way drama shows it's ugly face is if the other side finds a reason to hate and that a group of American citizens find that offensive is incredibly sad. Can you imagine being in Mexico on the 4th of July, and expecting every person around you to NOT show that they're Mexican? Can you imagine an American there, being offended by the fact that Mexican citizens are still wearing t-shirts with flags on it? I can't, but hey, maybe I am the minority here. I have no issues with that. I don't ever expect others to bend for me and I certainly don't live my life looking for things to be offended over.

There shouldn't ever be dissent for the American flag as an American citizen.
 
they were not wearing the flag out of pride, they were doing it to disrupt a peaceful event, to infringe on the rights of other citizens.

I think my difference of opinion here is that you seem to only see fault in the 5 that wore the t-shirts, not the fact that you have American citizens wanting to celebrate their heritage and being offended by the very flag they opted to live under...

And how do you know they didn't wear 'em out of pride. That others find it offensive is what offends me. I'm not condoning them or their desire to incite a riot, but I do think the point here is that no one should be offended by the site of our American flag here in America.
 
How can it be wrong to wear our Nation's Colors...in our own Nation?! :poke:

if you do it to ruin other people events, and infringe on thier right to express themselves....

we keep repeating the same thing, how could it be wrong....but why is it so offensive for citizens to want to celebrate thier heritage? why were these boys so offended by the free speech of others.
 
they were not wearing the flag out of pride, they were doing it to disrupt a peaceful event, to infringe on the rights of other citizens.

And by making them go home, their First Amendment rights were infringed upon.

Simply wearing a flag does not disrupt an event. The event was disrupted because someone else (or many others) were offended by it.

I'm sorry that they were offended by and American Flag in America...but THEY were the ones that let the even get disrupted.
 
if you do it to ruin other people events, and infringe on thier right to express themselves....

we keep repeating the same thing, how could it be wrong....but why is it so offensive for citizens to want to celebrate thier heritage? why were these boys so offended by the free speech of others.

Who said that they were offended - they were just exercising their First Amendment right...

Again, wearing the flag does not disrupt an event...


FWIW - I'm Cuban - but you won't see me flying the Cuban flag or wearing it. I'm proud to be an American. I will always proudly display the American Flag - no other. I live in the USA...
 
I think my difference of opinion here is that you seem to only see fault in the 5 that wore the t-shirts, not the fact that you have American citizens wanting to celebrate their heritage and being offended by the very flag they opted to live under...

And how do you know they didn't wear 'em out of pride. That others find it offensive is what offends me. I'm not condoning them or their desire to incite a riot, but I do think the point here is that no one should be offended by the site of our American flag here in America.

i know that they were trying to dis-rupt the Cinco de Mayo festivities...because i heard one of the boys say it, from his own mouth...

1. so far we have a school of citizens having a peaceful celebration of thier heritage, as they have a right to do.

2. 5 kids who decided to disrupt the event, as admitted on video by one of them

3. a principal whose motives are not clear, maybe he was trying to keep the peace or maybe he was letting his politics cloud judgement(don't know yet).

the kids were wrong in trying to disrupt the event.....they are hiding behind the flag because it will give them sympathy from a country that is fed up with mexicans and illegal immigrants...

the problem is that this is not about those things.
 
Who said that they were offended - they were just exercising their First Amendment right...

Again, wearing the flag does not disrupt an event...


FWIW - I'm Cuban - but you won't see me flying the Cuban flag or wearing it. I'm proud to be an American. I will always proudly display the American Flag - no other. I live in the USA...

so having a beer on cinco de mayo mean i am un-american? i am not proud of my country.
 
And again, I go back to the simple fact that there are American Citizens that are allowed to celebrate their heritage on a specific day, and they are also offended by the American flag...

It does not compute. The 5 should have been sent home specifically for inciting a riot then, NOT for wearing American flag t-shirts, and those other American citizens should be taught what sacrifices are made to be proud of and live under the American flag. Being American isn't something you turn on and off when it's convenient, any more than I'd expect any other nationality to do for me...

So, we'll agree to disagree on this point. I know far too many that have served this great country so we can fly the flag with pride. Far too many paid the ultimate price and still do and that's enough for me to never feel threatened by my right to fly the flag, or your right to celebrate whatever you feel you should.

This PC crap is just that...
 
so having a beer on cinco de mayo mean i am un-american? i am not proud of my country.

Huh?! What does that have to do with anything?!

MAY 5th is just another day for me...means nothing to most Americans; has no significance to our Nation. You're welcome to have a beer and enjoy the day however you wish... Just allow me the same courtesy... (which was not afforded to the 5 boys).
 
you do know Cinco de Mayo is an American creation......made to sell beer, and liquor.

they do not celebrat it in Mexico.
 
you do know Cinco de Mayo is an American creation......made to sell beer, and liquor.

they do not celebrat it in Mexico.

Yeah, we know that, which also brings up the question "Why were they celebrating it and being offended by the American flag" :rofl:

Enjoy... :cheerleader:
 
but why is it so offensive for citizens to want to celebrate thier heritage? why were these boys so offended by the free speech of others.

Free speech is not recognized in public school. So we have to look at this as a dress code violation. Do the T-shirts violate the dress code, yes or no? Additionally, did the students incite violence independent of the wardrobe? If the t-shirts are acceptable dress during the balance of the year, there is no logical reason to deny their use on a specific day regardless of intent. Punish the crime, not some arbitrary dress code offense.
 
Free speech is not recognized in public school. So we have to look at this as a dress code violation. Do the T-shirts violate the dress code, yes or no? Additionally, did the students incite violence independent of the wardrobe? If the t-shirts are acceptable dress during the balance of the year, there is no logical reason to deny their use on a specific day regardless of intent. Punish the crime, not the reason for the crime.

Exactly, and thank you. I said it earlier, if they did indeed incite violence, THAT is the reason to send 'em home, not the t-shirt unless it is a violation of the dress code, which I seriously doubt...

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