ISIS v USA

[fallenarch]

He's actually not that smart and not a political science specialist. My wife is a physics teacher so we actually often attend lectures by visiting physicists including several Nobel Prize winners. We saw Kaku and Neil deGrasse speak in New York, probably two of the leading science popularizers right now. Listen closely and what he is saying makes no sense, or at least is not usable in any real way. We cannot be an interstellar society without huge technological leaps. Jetting across the stars like in Star Trek is hundreds of thousands of years away if it's even possible at all.

The things we have to do here on this planet is to break our material based economies and move into the idea economy. We should not want or desire more material things than we actually need or can use. There are no good ways to do this unfortunately that I know of. Communism and Socialism reduce the material fixation but also reduce motivation to excel. Capitalism feed the greedy and fuels conflict.

So to get back to the point. ISIS is a manifestation of economic imbalance. Fix the imbalance and people will get along.

 

[jellyrug]

He's actually not that smart and not a political science specialist. My wife is a physics teacher so we actually often attend lectures by visiting physicists including several Nobel Prize winners. We saw Kaku and Neil deGrasse speak in New York, probably two of the leading science popularizers right now. Listen closely and what he is saying makes no sense, or at least is not usable in any real way. We cannot be an interstellar society without huge technological leaps. Jetting across the stars like in Star Trek is hundreds of thousands of years away if it's even possible at all.

The things we have to do here on this planet is to break our material based economies and move into the idea economy. We should not want or desire more material things than we actually need or can use. There are no good ways to do this unfortunately that I know of. Communism and Socialism reduce the material fixation but also reduce motivation to excel. Capitalism feed the greedy and fuels conflict.

So to get back to the point. ISIS is a manifestation of economic imbalance. Fix the imbalance and people will get along.

Isil is a manifestation of economic imbalance? Really?

Do some bed time reading, here is a hint below. If you don't like reading, maybe we can chat about this one day. I spent six years living and working in Saudi Arabia, for the US. That gave me a bit more personal insight.

An old John Lennon fan I see?

Notes from the Panopticon: A really simple explanation of Sunni/Shia tension and the Middle East crisis ? Part 4 Theological differences

BTW, some of us are not content with the thought that the human race will be extinct once our planet has done it's time. We are the more pro-active thinkers.

 

[fallenarch]

BTW, some of us are not content with the thought that the human race will be extinct once our planet has done it's time. We are the more pro-active thinkers.

First the real science is that humans are not adapted to interstellar travel. The time and distances are just to huge. Any group that committed to the trip would have to be prepared for the fact that they will never return. If they were to come back, chances are the people on earth would have aged considerably or died. The time warp thing is a myth, at least in terms of normal physics. Then there is the changes to the body with long term exposure to zero gravity.

When we leave this world it will be as robots infused with our conscience. Robots can go indefinitely and endure the harsh environment of space. They can endure the long time spans needed to travel billions of miles. They don't need air or water or other elements that would be difficult to carry in space. All they need is a star with enough radiation to make power.

 

[jellyrug]

First the real science is that humans are not adapted to interstellar travel. The time and distances are just to huge. Any group that committed to the trip would have to be prepared for the fact that they will never return. If they were to come back, chances are the people on earth would have aged considerably or died. The time warp thing is a myth, at least in terms of normal physics. Then there is the changes to the body with long term exposure to zero gravity.

When we leave this world it will be as robots infused with our conscience. Robots can go indefinitely and endure the harsh environment of space. They can endure the long time spans needed to travel billions of miles. They don't need air or water or other elements that would be difficult to carry in space. All they need is a star with enough radiation to make power.

Nature builds itself around survival of the fittest. Also, why capitalism works. The link below is rather ambitious, however, they certainly oppose your thoughts. The support and progress so far is amazing though.

Mars One

And then there is the exponential advancement in technology the past 100 years which proposes the next century will be rather interesting.

Finally, the next link below seems to indicate that mother earth is not too happy with the way we are treating her, which means we really have to start changing human behavior.

Planet Extinction - Greenland and the Collapse of the Ice Shields

And then getting back to Isil, the original topic of the thread. A few really bad guys manipulating uneducated masses based on religion and the Koran, towards their naive objective of establishing the mightiest Islam state ever.