is there a problem officer?

Here's a scenario to run through the old melon when you consider putting your head down and disappearing. Suppose the LEO you just met was pulling away from the three car pile-up around the next curve. The pile-up and related emergency vehicle parade that goes to stuff like that is still blocking the road. You put your head down and hit the evaporator zinging yourself to evaporation speed and round the curve to find cars, pedestrians, fire trucks, more LEO's, etc... completely blocking the road. How cool would that be?

It can't be put any clearer terms than this. Running from the cops is good time stupid. I'm not saying I've never done it. I'm not saying that given the "right" circumstances I wouldn't try to evaporate or disappear. I am saying that it is so incredibly stupid that anyone who runs, including me, gets what they/we deserve if we buy the farm doin' it. The only thing we can hope for is not to hurt someone else if we exercise this ultimate display of stupidity.
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Well said BT... We have all done some stupid poop, running from COPS will get you killed. In more ways than just the literal one. Running on a Bike gives us all a bad name, and we don't need anymore crap than we already get. Save the speed for the track, circuit or drag strip, that is the only "safe" place to visit the top end. If just one guy runs from enough COPS, the COPS just start harassing us all more. Who needs that? Not me.

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I think its stupid as BT states and everytime I accelerate past the speed limit I"m always on a lookup for the "BT's"
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out there.....

I get what I deserve if I decide to run but man if I have the chance to escape and avoid 6 months w/o a license I may consider it.



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Okay...I'm going to 100% disagree simply because I can't help but think about all those that decide to run and end up wrecking...your adrenaline sky rockets...you might have the fastest bike, but that won't guarantee you can handle it, especially if you're in an unfamiliar area...sure, you can overanalyze and try to determine "am I in a 'safe' area, know the road ahead, etc", but your body will react in a way that you might not expect since you have so much at stake...plus, in those two seconds, who really has time to think about all of that sh*t anyway?

I just hate to see anyone wrapped around a telephone pole because they did decide to run...I lost someone very close to me when he was busted speeding and didn't think he could afford one more ticket, nor could he ever imagine that the decisions he made in that instant to run would cost him his life...

Not trying to preach to anyone here, but seeing a bike broken in two pieces right where he was sitting after hitting the pole was a great way to realize how much running wasn't worth it...
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Stepping down now...sorry...
See now if you hadn't of made your post so personal I could tee off on what you had to say....  But...

I mean real world, running from LEO's is about dumb, but it happens.  If you smoke yourself running from the police then you shouldn't have been running... it's important to know your limits and be able to face up to the reality of the moment.  If you smoke someone else while running from a speeding ticket then you should just be shot, simple.  

If you have experiance riding at high speeds and your out in familiar turf, there isn't really a reason for the adrenals to start firing extra because there is a cop behind you.  

Especially when what I am talking about is not an extended Dukes of Freakin Hazard Hollywood style Chase scene with smoking tires and wheelies.  What I was refering to is simply disappearing.  

The kind of failure to stop that lasts about 5-8 seconds...  It's not at all hard to simply put your head down and simply evaporate.  The kind of evaporation that makes the Officer wonder if there was ever a bike at all.  But Like I have mentioned before, I would never do anything like this, I am just talking about uh..Hypotheticals.    

Now you mention that you cannot really know how your body will react when you have so much at stake...  I dunno about that, I mean a person is allready traveling at a highly illegal velocity to begin with, allready functioning at an elevated state of alertness and focus.  Adding a LEO to the equation prolly wont effect judgement one way or another in this kind of situation.  Might have given Bob a little bit of a schoolyard kinda thrill, you know like throwing the dodge ball at the PE teacher, but no real increase in heart rate, what was behind him just really no longer mattered...

But the whole idea of running is just silly and wrong and nobody I know here in Tampa or on this board would EVER think of doing something so irriational, irresponsible, and reckless...  I mean it would be like owning a sport bike...Dangerous... Nope, none here like that at all.
I didn't mean to make it so personal Revlis...it's just that what happened to someone in my family has played through my mind so many times, and I keep thinking "if only he hadn't decided to run..."

Believe me, there were other circumstances that night as well, and there were at least 3 contributing factors to the final outcome of his crash...had he just not done one of them, he might be here today...doesn't mean he wouldn't have eventually hurt or killed himself anyway; he took risks on his bike that I wish he hadn't...

...I'd hate to see anyone lose a friend or loved-one because of a split decision to avoid a speeding ticket...

And I disagree about how you'd react if you think a chase could ensue...I know how I react in a car when I see a cop and I know I've been speeding...I'm a great driver, no accidents, no speeding tickets in over 10 years...but, I can feel that sudden rush and near-panic in my chest...if I chose to run at that point, I'd surely put myself in harm's way; wouldn't matter how well I can handle the car or that I know the roads like the back of my hand...the adrenaline rush gets you and you might think for a brief time that you're invincible...that's when you lose control...

It doesn't matter how fast you were traveling to begin with...the "cop" factor pushes you to take even more chances, and once a chase has begun, you've got even more at stake if you do get caught...can't tell me that adrenaline doesn't kick in...it's not like you'd just roll along at incredible speed as if you're taking a Sunday drive...decisions to run have put you in a predicament where you have no choice but to get away, no matter what...

Just not worth it, but that's just one gal's opinion...just be careful guys/gals...that's all...you'd all be missed if something went wrong...
 
Here's a scenario to run through the old melon when you consider putting your head down and disappearing. Suppose the LEO you just met was pulling away from the three car pile-up around the next curve. The pile-up and related emergency vehicle parade that goes to stuff like that is still blocking the road. You put your head down and hit the evaporator zinging yourself to evaporation speed and round the curve to find cars, pedestrians, fire trucks, more LEO's, etc... completely blocking the road. How cool would that be?

It can't be put any clearer terms than this. Running from the cops is good time stupid. I'm not saying I've never done it. I'm not saying that given the "right" circumstances I wouldn't try to evaporate or disappear. I am saying that it is so incredibly stupid that anyone who runs, including me, gets what they/we deserve if we buy the farm doin' it. The only thing we can hope for is not to hurt someone else if we exercise this ultimate display of stupidity.
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Well Said BT, couldn't have put it better.

No buts here, though I will repeat what I stated above. Right place, wrong speed. I guess what I am aiming at is not really Running...so much as just not stopping right away. As a hypothetical... say I blow by BT at 150mph out in the sticks because I am playing and he was being a sneaky bear. All I am really saying is that I may not slow and pull over right away... If I am allready traveling at supra-Illegal speeds I am going to jail allready, why should I just pull over and go in like a sheep? Now the minute I see Cherries behind me, I'm done and I know it. If I hear a siren I really know I am done... But mostly I figure it's up to the Officer, if BT wants me that bad and I see him back there, over I go... Hopefully I get enough of a lead to smoke a cig before he gets there... I guess what I am really saying is if your allready going to jail, you may as well find out if the Officer has really decided it's worth it to get you. Don't get the idea that I am advocating running from some LEO because I just got spotted doing a burnout at the local Sat Night Hangout. Hell No, I'll park it and yessir, nosir my way right along.

So don't misunderstand me, I am not advocating running, so much as advocating not pulling over right away because you suspect that Law enforcement is behind you trying to catch up. Make sense?

For example, if I am down in Ybor City hanging out and decide to just pop that front off the ground and I get spotted, I am pulling over right away, turning the bike off, and hoping that the Officer understands that I was just being a doofus. In a crowded urban environment the chances of my surviving at high speeds while trying to run are not good, not to mention the potential of others getting hurt.

It's out in the country, room to roam, in good weather, where I am allready doomed, thats when I may consider just not slowing down. At least not until I determine if the officer really wants me that bad. There have been a few times where I have blown by a Sheriff, or State Trooper and they haven't even flinched. I had one click his Takedowns at me briefly once, but never move from the median. So I am thinking that if you are in a rural area, gear on, right road, and conditions, that the officers may just decide your not worth the hassle, they have better things to do. If I am tagged at 65 in a 45... I'm pulling over quickly. As for <span style='color:orangered'>Here's a scenario to run through the old melon when you consider putting your head down and disappearing. Suppose the LEO you just met was pulling away from the three car pile-up around the next curve. The pile-up and related emergency vehicle parade that goes to stuff like that is still blocking the road. You put your head down and hit the evaporator zinging yourself to evaporation speed and round the curve to find cars, pedestrians, fire trucks, more LEO's, etc... completely blocking the road. How cool would that be?[/QUOTE]</span> It's a good valid point BT, though I would say that if I am moving at highly illegal speeds the road is straight and the curves that are there I am able to see cleanly through, otherwise I would have killed myself long ago.

Oh and BT... Your prolly right about the cherries behind me getting the heart rate up....
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I didn't really think about it but yeah, having a cruiser behind flashing patriotically would prolly get the pressure up a bit.

I dunno if I am explaining myself effectively or just prattling on. I agree completely though, if you run and smoke yourself you've earned it. To close I'll leave one other thought. If your running and the Officer in pursuit has an accident, or the officer takes out a bystander, the responsibility lands on you and it is really easy to be facing Manslaughter or even Homicide charges... Then your going to be somebody's lil Beeotch in the big house... assuming you survive...
 
You know, if we all would just obey the speed limit all the time, and observe proper traffic safety, then we wouldn't even need this thread.






Of course, then we all wouldn't have a need for the Hayabusa's either.
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Can you imagine the loss in State revenue, country wide, if EVERYONE drove the speed limt, and didn't break any laws for just one day?
 
I am always worried about accidents or cars stopped in the road on while railing the country roads, so I give my self some room that way, I dont think I go over a hunnerd if I cant see quite a ways in front of me just on the freeway or something. either way I wouldnt ever go to far before I pulled into a turn out and let the unit drive by, then I would pull out and go the other way.

last summer I rode a wheelie by the starbucks we hang at located in a large shopping center, to get on the freeway you must go east bound leaving the joint, but you must head west then do a u-turn on the main road cuz of a devider in the road, apparently as I did the deed a sheriff was pulling into the drive through and saw me do the wheelie, they say he turned his lights on and pursued, fortunetly for me the two lights at the intersections were green as I entered so we never had to stop, we got on the freeway and railed. there were 5 other bikes with me and none of us saw lights or the sheriff, we went pretty fast back to seattle and never saw one cop? friends that remained at the starbucks told us about a week later what happened. not sure if that would be considered evading? we were prolly on the freeway by the time he did his u-turn? thats my only incident, and I wouldnt make it a habbit in any event.
 
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