You'll have to help me out here rubb, I haven't watched UFC for years. I stopped back when Ken Shamrock first got into it and there were still two rules and they were banned everywhere. I was never one for the martial artists because they never lasted long in the octagon. Once they were down on the mat it was over for them, the wrestlers were genrally the ones who owned the mat. Dan Severn and Ken Shamrock are the ones who I remember the most. Of course the one who annoyed the heeck out of me was the whole Gracie family. Talk about boring matches, can't remember who he was fighting, believe it was Severn in the finals but the match was almost 30 minutes worth of Gracie holding on for dear life while trying to choke the other guy out. From the sounds of this thread I may have to give the UFC another try, even with the new rules but I swear if I see that conga line of the Gracies coming toward the octagon I am turning it off...LOL...