If you had a chance to fight in the ufc

[JINKSTER]

Hey Rub...I voted for Lee's "Jeet Kune Do" but not because I follow his school of discipline as much as I appreciated and followed his "School Of Thought"...as follows..

Keet June Do is the culmination of all styles Lee ever learned or practiced...and then he highly refined those combined styles/learning/disciplines into a highbred style of his own..Keet June Do...matching those maximized learnings with "his personal best" skill matrix.

and here's my personal experiences...

1. Several years of Taekwondo while in my teens...sensi Kim Sum Young

2. High School Wresting.

3. '77 Vintage U.S.M.C. Hand-To-Hand Combat Training.

and then after the usmc in my mid 20's?

4. Tiger Kims (West Palm Beach Fl.) and he taught a style he called "Style X"...as it was a cross between Taekwondo and (something extremely cool yet new to me) Hapkido...and the Hapkido part rox..and would be killer to incorporate into a ufc style as you would become a "Submissions Expert"....and basically?...Hapkido is the study and practice of "Pressure Locks"..thumblocks, wirstlocks, elbowlocks, shoulderlocks...all sorts of pressure points and locks..many extremely submissive..and others that were developed soley to re-position your opponent a a set-up move to maximize and execute futher devastation unto your opponent.

5. My days spent with Chuck Derdarien (Jupiter, FL) a few years back...5th Degree Korean Kung Fu...attained while stationed in korea...Honorary PKA Judge...Local PD Weapons Retention Instructor and also teachs a muted style of self defense to the elderly at the local civic center...he was also Vinnie Passiano's corner man when Vinnie came back from a broken neck...he taught me a bit.

I also watched, picked up on and admired a very shrewd style of boxing by boxer Hassiem Hammed...and it hit me while watching him box that he also seemed to take his ques from Lees Jeet Kune Do whereby his odd and very akward looking footwork was in keeping with Lee's "Broken Rythem" theory...utilizing completely unpredicatable and extremely evasive body movement..to lead your opponent into a desired direction and then?..catch'im off balance...jump 90 degrees to his side and..WHAMO!!!....stick'im hard.

Taekwondo taught me patience and control...High School wresting taught me persistance...the USMC taught me to be ultra aggressive, viscous and deliberate...Hapkido taught me how to control another..and my old buddy Chucko taught me some close in flat out dirty shid...and all of that?...as I follow Lee's Jeet Kune Do "School Of Thought"?..."that"...that's my style...and that's what I'd be using in ufc.

You should check out that Hapkido stuff brother..it rox if you're into that sorta thing...and L8R, Bill.

 

[chrisjp]

what is the run and hide like a chicken mastery....ohhh sorry never mind lol

 

[yamahor]

what is the run and hide like a chicken mastery....ohhh sorry never mind lol

I think it's the "yellah" method. Very old, traced back to the Ancient Chinese warriors and the Samurai...

 

[yamahor]

As for me, I chose wing chung. Mainly because a close friend of my dad, Kan Lu, teaches this in VA beach area. So, when I go down there a we have time, he teaches me some. I wouldn't mind learning Jeet Kun Do though...

 

[rubbersidedown]

cool responses so far....interesting reads

 

[frisbee]

From what I see wrestling is the useual winning moves.

 

[BusaCruise]

 

[bigern_05Busa]

You'll have to help me out here rubb, I haven't watched UFC for years. I stopped back when Ken Shamrock first got into it and there were still two rules and they were banned everywhere. I was never one for the martial artists because they never lasted long in the octagon. Once they were down on the mat it was over for them, the wrestlers were genrally the ones who owned the mat. Dan Severn and Ken Shamrock are the ones who I remember the most. Of course the one who annoyed the heeck out of me was the whole Gracie family. Talk about boring matches, can't remember who he was fighting, believe it was Severn in the finals but the match was almost 30 minutes worth of Gracie holding on for dear life while trying to choke the other guy out. From the sounds of this thread I may have to give the UFC another try, even with the new rules but I swear if I see that conga line of the Gracies coming toward the octagon I am turning it off...LOL...

 

[turbojonn]

I fight full contact alot in my school. Lots of different types of people (builds). Some you can fight standing up, some you can grapple. Some you should never fight at all. You have to know how to get off the ground if your opponent is a skilled grappler. Unless you have an immense power advantage you can find yourself in a very bad spot very quickly. Same goes for stand up exchanges. If your totally outboxed then you've got to go to the ground. If your not good at either, just say sorry and be nice to the guy. Oh, Thai boxing is great and can be brutal in stand up. Elbows and knees can hurt bad and end fights quick. Our school doesn't like us to use elbows much as it's way too easy screw up and hurt somebody, then they quit the school.
I used to think I was a tough guy, now I know I'm not. I've been whooped by skinny old guys enough to know that you never know. I look at the UFC guys, most of which are highly skilled and think NO WAY. Not even the light-weights. Most of those guys have the kick ass gene too. The one that makes you want to hurt whoever they put in front of you. I don't have that.
I've only fought in two tournaments. I came in second in one and got my butt kicked in the other. This was pre UFC and it was all stand up. In my second place fight I kicked the guy full force straight in his mouth with a sliding side kick. I hated the way it felt. I felt a bit like an ass. I felt worse though when he round housed me to the jaw. Now I play with pads and nice opponents. I love to watch the UFC stuff. Those guys are animals!

 

[camaroguy72]

I train just about everyday. I alternate ... conventional boxing... wing chun... and white lotus. wing chun is by far my favorite... I can make the biggest dudes squeal like little girls

 

[Revlis]

Would be a combo actually Ju Jitsu for the Ground work, Stir in some akido for balance, and some Muay Thai  for the striking.  

One thing I've learned though, watching the UFC?  No "ONE" art is going to get it done.  Thus, MMA...

Personally though, I am all about the Fine art of OC.  It's guaranteed effective, multiple or single attackers.   Hell yeah, call me OC, "The Human Skunk".  

  Combine liberal OC use with a few years of Akido, and you should be good to go.  Out in the world anyway, I think they banned OC in the UFC...  To Hard Core.  

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[JINKSTER]

and hence all your varied responses?...is why Jeet Kune Do rules...as there is no "ONE" discipline...it's all encompassing...the best one can personally execute and best suited to any given situation...trust me....if your up against a muscle bound brute?..wrestilng down on the matt is the last place you wanna be....again...the universal adaptability of Jeet Kune Do rules...got grabbed by the brute anyways?..hapkido..grab his thumb (with two hands if ya hafta) and try an braid it around his wrist..it'll snap...he'll scream..he'll let go..and he'll be highly distracted...or give'im thumb pressure to the temples...and if ya can hang on for 17 seconds you'll get to watch his eyes roll back into his head...practice and training in hapkido is das shid...as no matter how weak one might be?..properly deployed it can get anybody out of just about anything...but you go to the matt with a gorilla?..long enough for him to get a lock on ya?...and this is why adapability is so important...the adapability of ALL disciplines...to be used where and when best effective to ANY given situation...and not locked into just one style....great footwork is a strong plus..most mucledheads always wanna go straight to the ground game right away..as that's where THEIR strengths are..and if they don't attack heads up straight on?...they go low for the legs trying for a firemans carry...and almost none avoid this...as they already give into the initial lockup...what if instead?...you took your wide balanced stance...don't move...let/force him bring it to you..stay square and issue out a timely double snap on his charge..chop to the back of the neck..kick behind the knee and finally?...sweep'im of the last leg..the start dancing and pick'im apart evrytime he tries to get back up...the first moves need to be extremely fast and flowing...butcha gotta have a good thick game book of excellent plans (flexable, adaptable kata's) before you can even begin adopting such a diverse, personalized, style....but damn if it don't work like a charm once ya put it all together.

L8R, Bill.

 

[Aquaman]

Cabbage pounded the crap outta tank abbot if I remember.
He took such a beating,I actually felt bad for him.

 

[ksana]

Really need like 2 or 3
Brazilian Jiu Jutsu is prolly the most effective
but thats only if ur on the ground
and if thats the case
it won't take long

but thats why they call it MMA: Mixed Martial Arts

I took Kenpo at 6, TKD at 14, BJJ just last year
so after 24 yrs
I really couldn't choose 1 over the other

Kenpo has excellent strikes, footwork
TKD has incredible kicks
BJJ has the phenomenal chokes, holds, etc.

but Kenpo & TKD on the ground are out of their element
& vice versa w/ BJJ standing up

I don't train to fight
just the passion for the arts
I've stayed w/ it
can't imagine giving up 1 of them tho

BOTTOM LINE: whether it be Greco Roman wrestling, Shotokan, Judo or Capoeira
U will need to not only hone ur skills in ur main Martial Art
But also in ur secondary, if not third

No Martial Art is =the best, u just gotta find the one best for u

 

[turbojonn]

You guys are missing the point. All you are two types of martial arts. One is from a famous 80's movie, the style used was Gymkata. You basically swing around on stuff and dismount on the opponent. The other is Shaq-Fu, wherein you basically just hit people and have a 7 foot tall body.

 

[impactks]

Been stated many times already but here is my take...

To compete at even a mid-level in MMA you must possess skills in standup (hands, feet, elbows, knees, and footwork), clinch (greco-roman style grappling mixed with striking), and ground (BJJ and wrestling...both top and bottom games). An aside to this is you must also have heart, will-power, and exceptional conditioning.

Without this mix of skills you will more than likely end up in a range you're unfamiliar with. This is almost always very bad for you.

I would utilize the JKD philosophy, the grappling from wrestling and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, the striking from kickboxing and Thai boxing, and the ferocity of a street fighter....

 

[yamahor]

You guys are missing the point. All you are two types of martial arts. One is from a famous 80's movie,  the style used was Gymkata. You basically swing around on stuff and dismount on the opponent. The other is Shaq-Fu, wherein you basically just hit people and have a 7 foot tall body.

sounds like I'd be Halfway good at Shaq-fu... I've got the body for it... just off by 2 inches.

 

[rubbersidedown]

You guys are missing the point. All you are two types of martial arts. One is from a famous 80's movie,  the style used was Gymkata. You basically swing around on stuff and dismount on the opponent. The other is Shaq-Fu, wherein you basically just hit people and have a 7 foot tall body.

sounds like I'd be Halfway good at Shaq-fu... I've got the body for it... just off by 2 inches.

I sit on your shoulders...we kick everyone's azz...Shaq,Kareem Abdul,the Jolly Green Giant....

we get a long overcoat made,so they think me and you are just one big tall ugly mutha....

should work,right?

 

[yamahor]

well..... You DEFINATELY got the ugly, and I got the tall...

 

[bigdr]

well..... You DEFINATELY got the ugly, and I got the tall...

Rub's also a master of wing nut..