GUN CONTROL........ hahaha

The flaw in the logic of the first statement is that by that reasoning, if there weren't guns in most houses criminals wouldn't be able to get them.
To your second point, if it became illegal to have guns, would you then stop owning guns or stop being a law abiding citizen? Because if you're willing to do something illegal simply because you don't like the law, any law anyone doesn't like then becomes irrelevant. You can see the problems with that. Hell, you deal with the consequences of that every time you work!
I'm not saying this for any other reason than to point out the flawed logic, and such arguments are incredibly common on both sides of this particular discussion.
I disagree. I’m stating that CURRENTLY that’s how they get them. Take them away from everyone and they would find another way. But currently local to me that is how they get them. By committing crime.

As far as if they made them illegal by removing the second amendment then I would be a criminal. Our country has it written that it is our right. I would fight and die for that. Took an oath to protect it.
 
I disagree. I’m stating that CURRENTLY that’s how they get them. Take them away from everyone and they would find another way. But currently local to me that is how they get them. By committing crime.

As far as if they made them illegal by removing the second amendment then I would be a criminal. Our country has it written that it is our right. I would fight and die for that. Took an oath to protect it.
they outlaw guns.... ure gonna lose control of nyc,.. it would be open season for the bloods/crips/trinatario…. who knows... maybe they would branch out to virginia even.... then u could feel our pain.... there are 54 PRISONS in NY...…. 54. in one state... this doesn't include little BS jails either..... many many more jails than prisons
 
they outlaw guns.... ure gonna lose control of nyc,.. it would be open season for the bloods/crips/trinatario…. who knows... maybe they would branch out to virginia even.... then u could feel our pain.... there are 54 PRISONS in NY...…. 54. in one state... this doesn't include little BS jails either..... many many more jails than prisons
But then again, NY state has more population than many countries...
 
But then again, NY state has more population than many countries...
20000 TO 25000 IDENTIFIED current blood members...… many suspect THAT number to be WAY low.... they CONTROL the drug trade in the projects…. very strong network.... and if ure not a blood and u wanna earn on their turf.... watch ure step and pay tribute... that's as far as im gonna go with this..... gang culture and life are attractive to many young persons desiring money and comfort, but there is an unimaginable bad side to these crews... even among their own sets..... the gang problem is like RUST on an old old neglected car...…..
 
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If you outlawed guns and all citizens gave theirs up then they would just pour across our southern border at breakneck speeds and superfluous volumes to arm all the criminals that wanted them. Sorta like the unrestricted flow of drugs coming over now.
Drugs flow because we let them. Our policy does not attack demand, or the white collar side of the drug trade that does almost all of the distribution. A free government directs the population with influence, not oppression. That has been proven over and over.
 
Drugs flow because we let them. Our policy does not attack demand, or the white collar side of the drug trade that does almost all of the distribution. A free government directs the population with influence, not oppression. That has been proven over and over.
drugs flow because we cant stop it..... with 100000 street gang members running at full capacity...…. low level street dealers clear hundreds of thousands of dollars a year...,. a kilo is 30-55k..... whack it up 50 percent off the bat...… 60k profit for the mid level dealer.... on ONE KEY...…. FOR DELIVERY OF ONE KEY.....the street guys step on the kilo AGAIN...… they sell grams for 60-100 bucks(low level dealer)….. 1000 grams times 60-100 bucks..... could be 100K.. will be 100k..... and most customers don't buy a gram at a time.... post over..... a key could be sold in a dammmn weekend.. there is sooooooooooooo much money and people involved in this its DISGUSTING...…
 
"whack it up" means use cutting agents....to "step on" means further cut the stuff…. Ive had in depth conversations about this stuff with these people.... its crazy how they live..... BUT I will say that the drug dealers make EXCELLENT porters..... hard workers.. lol, they do hustle... but u HAVE TO watch them closely.
 
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I disagree. I’m stating that CURRENTLY that’s how they get them. Take them away from everyone and they would find another way. But currently local to me that is how they get them. By committing crime.

As far as if they made them illegal by removing the second amendment then I would be a criminal. Our country has it written that it is our right. I would fight and die for that. Took an oath to protect it.
I know what you mean about the first point, I was speaking in terms of the argument itself.
To the second point, the document that you're referring to has been changed throughout it's existence, it will undoubtedly be changed again. There's no small irony in the fact that the 2nd amendment is exactly that, an amendment to the original document, which was apparently incomplete. Wether or not one likes or agrees with the changes to it, law abiding citizens will obey it, it's amendments, and the laws that are based on it. There's no provision for agreement in the Constitution.
 
Drugs flow because we let them. Our policy does not attack demand, or the white collar side of the drug trade that does almost all of the distribution. A free government directs the population with influence, not oppression. That has been proven over and over.
...and over and over and over.
Wouldn't it be great if there were a way that you could find out what works in terms of slowing down drug use? Or see which kinds of punishment are effective? Or should we keep locking up people for non violent offenses so that incarceration facilities at every level are overcrowded, staffed poorly and utterly ineffective. Yeah, that would be way better. Let's do that.....
 
drugs flow because we cant stop it..... with 100000 street gang members running at full capacity...…. low level street dealers clear hundreds of thousands of dollars a year...,. a kilo is 30-55k..... whack it up 50 percent off the bat...… 60k profit for the mid level dealer.... on ONE KEY...…. FOR DELIVERY OF ONE KEY.....the street guys step on the kilo AGAIN...… they sell grams for 60-100 bucks(low level dealer)….. 1000 grams times 60-100 bucks..... could be 100K.. will be 100k..... and most customers don't buy a gram at a time.... post over..... a key could be sold in a dammmn weekend.. there is sooooooooooooo much money and people involved in this its DISGUSTING...…

You view everything as a player, you don't look at the game. We can stop drugs, we don't want to because they are an essential part of our economy. Hip Hop Culture is about materialism and Samsung, Apple and jewelers are making crazy bank. A cop friend of mine said that probably 1/3 of the businesses along main street are either directly or indirectly supported by drugs. Prisons do great business due to drugs. Truth is our economy can't support our population. Drugs are the finger in the dike of society's dam against total chaos. Drugs keep people in their place for the most part. Without them people would look out beyond the inner cities and across the railroad tracks.

It will be interesting to see what happens with this crystal meth explosion. It's a middle class white epidemic, and those people are in the safe zones, you can't just put those people in jail and forget them.

So all this gets us back to guns, sort of......
 
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and a Wall....that keeps them from pouring in.
Even socialist colonel Sanders realizes that, along with a population this country can't support.
Yesterday, NY dems denied any more college assistance for gold star kids. Dems said the 2.7 million already in place was enough.
Then they approved 27 million, 10 times more, for dreamers. WTF!!!
Dream your ass a way to legally become a citizen, or get the f*** out.
I'm tired of watching these idiot officials hand our country over to whomever will vote for them to stay in their luxurious lifestyles.
And now Nancy and the crew are furious Trump says he's ok with releasing illegals to sanctuary cities.
Biggest bunch of hypocrits I've ever seen.
Pathetic.
Yet, being a white Trump supporter, I'm a racist. I am Nothing of the sort...but past caring who thinks what, and tired of watching dems manipulate minorities into thinking they are for them, as they are Not.
They are for themselves.
Guns are just one of their biggest obstacles in obtaining Tyranical power...the one thing the 2nd amendment allows us to have them for.
And, as I've said before, my favorite dem statement was Nancy saying, and I quote, "We have to pass the bill to see what's in it".
Really?! Only an idiot would be on board with that...and they are.
God, guns, and Trump.
Call me whatever you like, as I no longer care.
Come here legally, contribute to society in a positive way, or get the F out.
 
You view everything as a player, you don't look at the game. We can stop drugs, we don't want to because they are an essential part of our economy. Hip Hop Culture is about materialism and Samsung, Apple and jewelers are making crazy bank. A cop friend of mine said that probably 1/3 of the businesses along main street are either directly or indirectly supported by drugs. Prisons do great business due to drugs. Truth is our economy can't support our population. Drugs are the finger in the dike of society's dam against total chaos. Drugs keep people in their place for the most part. Without them people would look out beyond the inner cities and across the railroad tracks.

It will be interesting to see what happens with this crystal meth explosion. It's a middle class white epidemic, and those people are in the safe zones, you can't just put those people in jail and forget them.

So all this gets us back to guns, sort of......
Arch..... Its not really the drugs.... its the gangs... and the CULTURE and money.... money money money..... rooms full of it... with uzis and full time paid lookouts to protect the stash houses.... ya gotta understand the players to even ATTEMPT to guess at a solution to the game.
 
Arch..... Its not really the drugs.... its the gangs... and the CULTURE and money.... money money money..... rooms full of it... with uzis and full time paid lookouts to protect the stash houses.... ya gotta understand the players to even ATTEMPT to guess at a solution to the game.
Those gangs are the tail of the dog. You have to aim at the head and our government hasn't been willing to do that because stopping this is not a priority in reality. Remember Iran Contra? They paid for illegal weapons to go to the contras with drug money. Drugs keep the undesirables focused on each other, not the comfortable half of society.
 
Those gangs are the tail of the dog. You have to aim at the head and our government hasn't been willing to do that because stopping this is not a priority in reality. Remember Iran Contra? They paid for illegal weapons to go to the contras with drug money. Drugs keep the undesirables focused on each other, not the comfortable half of society.
wait arch.... what is the head? lol
 
So Michael, what's YOUR perspective on all of this? Do you think the incorrectly labeled "assault rifle" should be banned and a pistol is enough, or are you a 2A supporter?
Hi. Well you are right there is no such thing as a [ semi auto assault rifle] it is just a rifle. I carry 2 hand guns. Both .380s. They are with me 24/7. I also do no believe in open carry. I do not want anyone to know I have a gun. I think there should be very strict laws to carry. You should be very well trained. If you want to drive a race car like a F5000 you pay to learn how. You should have to be able to hit a target at least. I do not own a rifle I train for in close combat. room to room no more than 2 to 7 yds.
 
Hi. Well you are right there is no such thing as a [ semi auto assault rifle] it is just a rifle. I carry 2 hand guns. Both .380s. They are with me 24/7. I also do no believe in open carry. I do not want anyone to know I have a gun. I think there should be very strict laws to carry. You should be very well trained. If you want to drive a race car like a F5000 you pay to learn how. You should have to be able to hit a target at least. I do not own a rifle I train for in close combat. room to room no more than 2 to 7 yds.
Hi. It would be nice if we did not need guns at all. No war. Look at England what is going on with knifes. It is very easy to make a big boom, cost about $100.00. You can not stop bad guys, they will all ways find a way.
 
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