Who says the Busa can't 12 o'clock? I can't get it perfectly vertical, or at least keep it there, but it can be done.I'm no stunner by any stretch of the imagination. But the busa cannot twelve o clock and I'd be willing to bet the weight and wheelbase would prove a lot of low speed stunts to be very hard if not impossible for a lot of people. How many twelve oclock stoppies could the forks take?I remember reading a lot of the stunt articles when it became big, people wanted the new bikes for weight reasons If all we had were the heavy steel frame big engine oil cooled bikes of yesterday the stunt game wouldn't be where it is today.
Im sure in the most capable hands you can do a lot of things possibly all the same, but there's now way the guys that make a living doing stunt shows are going to use a bigger bike for any reason other than a gimmick. Look at motor cross two strokes are a thing of the past. People still do tricks with them though because that slight weight advantage will allow them to do some things they otherwise could not. I realize its aerial vs ground but same thing applies IMHO. Working harder doesn't make you better when the guy next to you is doing the exact same thing with less effort. Had an old guy tell me a long time ago when I used to lift heavy **** all the time. Gotta be stupid to be tough lol
You'de also lose your bet that the Busa's weight and wheelbase makes low speed stunts very hard or impossible. Very hard? Nope. Impossible? Nope. A little different? Sure.
How many 12 o'clock stoppies could the forks take? Who knows, but most every stuntbike breaks at some point.
As for MX, I did a couple seasons of 250B, so I can talk a little on that too.
Can I do a backflip? Nope. Would I rather do one on a lighter bike? Yep. I could do a superman, nac nac, and a decent whip. So I can say that a lighter bike is easier. Can a 450 do a backflip? Yep, no problem.
Trying to relate ariel dirtbike stunts to ground stunts on a streetbike is apples to oranges, and the weight arguement is completely different.
As I've said, sure you feel the weight of a heavier bike. But, show me a good stunt rider that can't do the same tricks on any bike. A bike is a bike, and I'm not saying you can knee drag a Harley with floorboards either. Bikes have limits based on their application, but stunting any of them is easily possible.
Sure the newer lighter bikes are easier to stunt than old heavy air cooled bikes. But, you can do the same things on them too.
The whole point of this thread was the OP stating he was wheelieing(maybe stunting)a beater Busa he already had.
The question "why?" was later posed. Of course, he had it already. So why not?
Stunting a heavy bike isn't doing something hard to prove a point. It's just stunting a heavier bike as opposed to a lighter bike. Because that's what you have to ride, and because you enjoy doing it period.
I also respectfully say that if you cannot wheelie, stunt, ride mx, do mx tricks, ect.; then your opinions based upon what you've read aren't the same as the opinions of those who are actually capable of doing them.