Debate night!!!

[jellyrug]

This is turning into a hootenanny.
Does anybody here trim their underarm hair?
I can almost braid mine.

 

[Red05]

Sorry red, I’m not trying to debate this guy. I’m just responding to the stupid sh!t he writes.

Unlike with you, there is no value in trying to have an intellectual debate with him.

It is interesting to see the major and conflicting differences between opinions of Democrats and Republicans.

Democrats who don’t like Trump won’t vote for him. They would prefer a commander and chief who has shown the world his mental ability has been compromised by age. They are OK with a puppet for show purposes only, over someone they dislike. They dislike Trump because he calls a spade a spade, because he is not Presidential. They don’t care about the country and the fact that the world laughs at us. They just hate Trump, nothing else matters.,

I don’t have to vote for someone I like, just trying to do what I think is best. One has to look at both parties as a whole, rather than just one person.

Guess it depends on who you talk to. A lot of the world makes fun of Trump. Trump does a lot worse than calling spade a spade. Biden is ready for retirement. Our system won’t allow for a change at this juncture and that is the real shame of it all.
You and I don’t agree politically but most of the rest I’m pretty sure we’re not that different.

 

[Bumblebee]

This is about the first post that you've made that makes sense to me. Thanks for that.

First post that ever made sense to you or only on this subject? As you will note, I've made over 25,000 posts so if none of them made sense to you, I'm doing something wrong.

I'm not sure how to take this comment....

 

[Red05]

First post that ever made sense to you or only on this subject? As you will note, I've made over 25,000 posts so if none of them made sense to you, I'm doing something wrong.

I'm not sure how to take this comment....

Lol

 

[jellyrug]

Guess it depends on who you talk to. A lot of the world makes fun of Trump. Trump does a lot worse than calling spade a spade. Biden is ready for retirement. Our system won’t allow for a change at this juncture and that is the real shame of it all.
You and I don’t agree politically but most of the rest I’m pretty sure we’re not that different.

Keeping Biden and Trump out of the subject, are you satisfied with the Democratic Party as a whole? Do you believe they serve the country better than the Republican Party?

 

[jellyrug]

^^^^^
The fact that the majority of Americans have chosen gerontocratic leadership still boggles my mind. It is really hard to understand.

 

[Red05]

Keeping Biden and Trump out of the subject, are you satisfied with the Democratic Party as a whole? Do you believe they serve the country better than the Republican Party?

The democratic party, to me hasn't had a leader since Obama and since he had lacked the 60 senate votes for most of his time in office, he was somewhat muzzled. The vacancy is glaring and no, I'm not satisfied with them. I have always thought that it's in the country's best interests if the presidential administration swings back and forth, like a pendulum. By that theory, it should be a Republican in '24, but my dislike, distrust, dis everything about Trump, trumps that.

 

[Red05]

^^^^^
The fact that the majority of Americans have chosen gerontocratic leadership still boggles my mind. It is really hard to understand.

With Republicans, it's a lack of options; look at Ramaswamy, Christie and DeSantis and one might run screaming. On the other side I'd go with Buttigieg or Harris; either one has as bad a chance of beating Trump as Biden does, but Biden needs to step down and has shown no sign of that.
Neither side wants to give up on what they consider their best chance, so the majority of Americans play along.

 

[michael parris heuberger]

With Republicans, it's a lack of options; look at Ramaswamy, Christie and DeSantis and one might run screaming. On the other side I'd go with Buttigieg or Harris; either one has as bad a chance of beating Trump as Biden does, but Biden needs to step down and has shown no sign of that.
Neither side wants to give up on what they consider their best chance, so the majority of Americans play along.

Hi. Buttgieg where is he on leave again? And where is he? Harris ? She has done a good thing at the border? Well she did not fix it!

 

[Red05]

Hi. Buttgieg where is he on leave again? And where is he? Harris ? She has done a good thing at the border? Well she did not fix it!

Right. Harris has not fixed the border problem. Neither has anyone else. Buttigieg?
I think you’re confused again. Pence’s joke about maternity leave was just that, a joke.
You understand that right? Besides, it’s not his decision. It’s Biden’s.

 

[jellyrug]

With Republicans, it's a lack of options; look at Ramaswamy, Christie and DeSantis and one might run screaming. On the other side I'd go with Buttigieg or Harris; either one has as bad a chance of beating Trump as Biden does, but Biden needs to step down and has shown no sign of that.
Neither side wants to give up on what they consider their best chance, so the majority of Americans play along.

Let me shock you:

If I could ever have a word with Obama (won't ever happen), I would tell him that he was one of the best Presidents we ever had. But, his succession planning really sucked.

On the remainder, we have very different views, LOL VERY DIFFERENT. That is OK though.

I believe DeSantis had the perfect resume, would be my first choice by a long shot. Almost any of the other Republican candidates would have been better than Trump.

Both Harris and Buttigieg, are not people I would be able to associate with in any form or shape.

If I could choose to do a 1/2 day fishing trip with Biden or Trump, it would be Biden by a long shot. I would probably cancel if it had to be Trump.

If I had to choose between Biden and Trump for president, it would be Trump by a long shot, that being the only option. I would not trust Biden to run a McDonalds store.

 

[Zerks]

Right. Harris has not fixed the border problem. Neither has anyone else. Buttigieg?
I think you’re confused again. Pence’s joke about maternity leave was just that, a joke.
You understand that right? Besides, it’s not his decision. It’s Biden’s.

Nobody has improved the uncontrolled border situation? What were the numbers during Trumps term as compared to Biden's?

The border issue in another attack on America by the leftist, marxist, socialist cabal of politicians on both sides of the isle.
Plenty of assistance from foreign countries as they release their criminals and whack jobs from mental institutions if they go to America by whatever means available like riding on the top of freight trains going north through Mexico. They stopped showing those pictures a while ago... However... an occasional video from boats on the rivers that are transporting illegals was making money on Tic Toc a few months ago...

Who ever thought an illegal alien could make money on the internet by filming illegals traveling north by boat to illegally cross the US border? Only in America.... what a great system of security we have here in America... right?

 

[Red05]

Let me shock you:

If I could ever have a word with Obama (won't ever happen), I would tell him that he was one of the best Presidents we ever had. But, his succession planning really sucked.

On the remainder, we have very different views, LOL VERY DIFFERENT. That is OK though.

I believe DeSantis had the perfect resume, would be my first choice by a long shot. Almost any of the other Republican candidates would have been better than Trump.

Agreed on Obama, and your last sentence. Aside from DeSantis being far from having the perfect resume, problem is, the point is moot; DeSantis and Christie are irrelevant now.

 

[Red05]

Nobody has improved the uncontrolled border situation? What were the numbers during Trumps term as compared to Biden's?

Better take another look. The last month of Trump's tenure, yes, the numbers were good, because of the pandemic. Go back two years and his numbers are not as good as Obama's last two years in office. Trump did NOT fix the border problem, like I stated earlier. I never said Biden's efforts were more successful, but I keep forgetting your reading problem.

Read

 

[Zerks]

These protests were spurned by an activity not politically driven but more emotionally driven...Events such as Rodney King, George Floyd and others prompt these sorts of responses....

A loss of an election prompted the insurrection on Jan 6th where the then sitting president was really hoping was successful.

When Americans lose faith in their elections.....where does that leave the country?

War is being waged on America and Obama and the rich globalist are organizing and funding this attack. All you have to do is tune into the Rumble broadcast of today's show on the Caravan to Midnight show with John B Wells. It's all on the record now.

Its is now legal since it became illegal in 1948 for the MSM to propagandize the American public with lies and disinformation.

Don't believe that? Well... all I can say is that it going to be a rough ride up until the election... if the Dems win that means 4 more years of Obama running the show just like he has the last 3.5+ years. Change is coming to America... Obama is keeping his promise to America.

Illegal aliens are now going to have the right to vote and can also be sworn in as police officers.... what country does that?

 

[Zerks]

Better take another look. The last month of Trump's tenure, yes, the numbers were good, because of the pandemic. Go back two years and his numbers are not as good as Obama's last two years in office. Trump did NOT fix the border problem, like I stated earlier. I never said Biden's efforts were more successful, but I keep forgetting your reading problem.

Read

Stop the nonsense and propaganda... the rapes, the murders, the rampant fentanyl distribution... I guess you missed it.

 

[Zerks]

In all these cases, a protest was turned into a riot.......sadly the protest was racially driven...

I'm 100% certain there weren't only politically left aligned people in these riots, once some sort of action starts, all kinds of people dog-pile on.

These riots were not focused on disrupting a legal election so that a person could remain in power. The only person that could have prevented this was watching from the safety of the White House most likely hoping they'd be successful.

I'm not sure why they used the no cash bail system.

All Floyd had to do was not attempt to pass a phoney $20 bill and not resist arrest that is another crime. The dumba$$ wouldn't even show his hands when ordered to with a gun being pointed at him. From all of that he dies when kept under control with a knee on his neck while under the influence of a drug... talk about the perfect storm resulting from stupid behavior.... over 2 billion dollars in damages and loss of lives is the end result when the riots broke out.

That was a real win for the marxist, communist leftist, socialist political hacks with help from Antifa, BLM and MSM that got support from deep pockets somewhere in the world that want America destroyed. The whole purpose of all of this choas is to disrupt and divide this nation so it can be taken down and made into a communist utopia. The "You will own nothing and be happy crowd" is loving it right now.

America is under attack.... and something is going to break... when it does it's going to be ugly. Obama, China, Russia and other nation states that despise America are waiting with high hopes for something to break. Example... North Korea would like to over run South Korea... they are simply waiting for the right moment to do it.

One source says that here in America we have between 70,000 and 90,000 Chinese men of military age that have recently gained access to the this country. What are they here for?

If Trump were to win the next election things will likely get crazy... there are no uniforms now... they walk among us now.

 

[Zerks]

Guess it depends on who you talk to. A lot of the world makes fun of Trump. Trump does a lot worse than calling spade a spade. Biden is ready for retirement. Our system won’t allow for a change at this juncture and that is the real shame of it all.
You and I don’t agree politically but most of the rest I’m pretty sure we’re not that different.

Our system won't allow for change? Where is the law that says that? Its beyond a shame... Biden was identified as a crook before he was even elected.

Biden said... No loan if you don't fire the prosecutor that is investigating my son.... well, son of a bitch, he got fired! Remember that video?

 

[Bumblebee]

All Floyd had to do was not attempt to pass a phoney $20 bill and not resist arrest that is another crime. The dumba$$ wouldn't even show his hands when ordered to with a gun being pointed at him. From all of that he dies when kept under control with a knee on his neck while under the influence of a drug... talk about the perfect storm resulting from stupid behavior.... over 2 billion dollars in damages and loss of lives is the end result when the riots broke out.

That was a real win for the marxist, communist leftist, socialist political hacks with help from Antifa, BLM and MSM that got support from deep pockets somewhere in the world that want America destroyed.

America is under attack.... and something is going to break... when it does it's going to be ugly. Obama, China, Russia and other nation states that despise America are waiting with high hopes for something to break. Example... North Korea would like to over run South Korea... they are simply waiting for the right moment to do it.

One source says that here in America we have between 70,000 and 90,000 Chinese men of military age that have recently gained access to the this country. What are they here for?

If Trump were to win the next election things will likely get crazy... there are no uniforms now... they walk among us now.

All George Floyd needed to do is not be killed by a negligent cop. The LA riots started in a similar fashion...all Rodney King needed to do was not be killed by cops either......

As bad as the riots are, they were not a deliberate and calculated attack on the very fabric of the United States election system like Jan 6th was.....and the guy who was supposed to be for all the people of the United States stood back and watched.

I'd say North Korea would have it's hands full with South Korea, they are armed for bear and well trained.

As for the military aged Chinese citizens roaming the US...what are these sources? If they can figure this out, wouldn't the US government agencies also be able to figure it out as well and act on this?

 

[Zerks]

All George Floyd needed to do is not be killed by a negligent cop. The LA riots started in a similar fashion...all Rodney King needed to do was not be killed by cops either......

As bad as the riots are, they were not a deliberate and calculated attack on the very fabric of the United States election system like Jan 6th was.....and the guy who was supposed to be for all the people of the United States stood back and watched.

I'd say North Korea would have it's hands full with South Korea, they are armed for bear and well trained.

As for the military aged Chinese citizens roaming the US...what are these sources? If they can figure this out, wouldn't the US government agencies also be able to figure it out as well and act on this?

The multiple club beating on Rodney King was a travesty all of its own making by the out of control cops that did it. The Floyd situation was much different... the only striking going on was Floyd kicking an officer when they tried to get him under control while attempting to put him in the back seat of the police car. All Floyd had to do was sit in the back seat in handcuffs and all of this would not have happened;

It amazes me that people can defend the behavior of a druggie under the influence of a drug and resisting arrest all at the same time. He is lucky he didn't get tazed. He likely would have died if had been tazed. According to the toxicology report he was high at the time he died.

As far as illegal immgration goes we only have estimates. How do we count all the got aways? We also have planes from overseas landing in Mexico across the border from San Deigo and somehow they find a way into a sanctuary state like it is here in California.

Add to that... we have Gavin Newsom, our governor that approves of illegal immigration!