I picked up a couple pairs of these yesterday. I really like them, thick and comfy. Like the reviews said, the knee pads could be a little lower, but you cant beat the deal for 69.00. And they run just a hair smaller than jeans, so get the next size bigger than you normally wear. BILT IRON WORKERS - Camo Cargo Motorcycle Pants - Textile - Motorcycle Pants - Street - CycleGear - Cycle Gear