Amode, we are not talking about aluminum wheels being racing gear. We are talking about people who invest in carbon fiber or magnesium wheels to improve flickability, performance, and handling of the bike. I have never seen any information about tire weight differences for big heavy chicks like the Busa wears. But if we are talking about Battleax, Pilots, Duponts and such for street and track they are not much variation in weight...I would be shocked if they were over a pound or pound and a half. If you have some specs you'd like to share I would embrace reading it. I will grant you that since I live in N. Cal also..and I am sure it is this way everywhere...their are potholes to deal with. I would not trust my skin to riding magnesium anywhere but on the track or just pleasure riding. But carbon fiber, Chuck, it is da bomb. BST reps have been known to take naked rims and bounce them like a basketball on concrete for demonstrations and not a spec of damage. They are tough and as soon as I get the money I will jump on it with no hesitation. Chuck..you are cracking me up with this, "I wanna take you on". But I tell you..wouldn't it be fun to just go out on the track sometime and just play on the Busa's, have some laughs, afterwards drink a couple of beers, and turn into good friends? To me that is what the ORG. is about...men and women who have common interests sharing knowledge, experiences, and having a little fun with it!!! I think it is when you made the statement that lighter wheels is a bunch of BS that you need to do the research to understand unsprung weight...i.e. "gyroscopic effect". There is just too much racing evidence and written data that proves carbon fiber wheels, titanium everything on the rotors, ceramic rotors, ceramic ball bearings...all give a weight saving and improvement of managing unsprung weight...so that is what is being addressed here is your statement that lighter wheels are bs...2hip