mracer29
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I'm going to rant here cause I can't at thi time share it with the world on Facebook.
In my eyes I have witnessed absolute failure. He's a lil background on the story, I have been in the roofing business for 20+ years. Many years as an installer then in sales since 2002. In 2006 I went to work for a good friend, he had no other salesmen at the time. I have sold between 400 and 600 thousand dollars a year since I worked there. There has been many ups and downs, tons of disagreements over the years, but normally works itself out.
In 2006 there was a large hail storm I came back to ohio to work for Paramount sold lots, in 2008 there was a large windstorm, I brought on a couple sales guys I knew, he gathered a few guys he knew and we all made good money. In 2009 the wind blew again and created tons of work. We had a receptionist, a production manager, an administrator, an owner and a few sales guys. By 2010 almost all was gone except me, the receptionist and 1 sales guy, the owners wife took over administrator position. This leaving the production manager job on my back on top of a salesman position.
There was a small hail storm and the bother salesman wouldn't go canvas and the owner wouldn't help. Even though I was frustrated I went out and knocked as many doors as I could and brought in like 200,000 in sales. Since then everyone had left. A few of his daughters have worked as a receptionist here and there. As the down hill slide continued they left so all phone calls were being forwarded to my cell phone. Now I'm a salesman, productions manager, and a receptionist. On top of that we don't have any dedicated crews so if I sell something I have to round up a crew to do it, order materials, somewhat supervise the job, and collect the money. If any previous customers call with a leak or concern I have to go out and look at it, if there's an issue, I have to either Handle it or do paper work, then find a crew. Cause this part of the job as no potential commission I get a $300 dollar a month gas check. Other then that I get paid on a profit split of 50% that works like this,
Sell a job at $10,000
20% off the top for admin fee. -$ 2,000
Labor and materials ?????? -$ 6,000
Profit -$ 2,000
50/50 split we each get $ 1,000
Profit splits are normally between 6% and 12% but can be higher if jobs are sold high.
Man this I getting long sorry!
This year no year end bonus, didn't sell any less than last year. Had to beg for my gas check in feb. haven't got a gas check for march. Since I'm the only employee that does everything, I'm to blame for it all. Winter is always hit or miss around here, if you sell in dec jan feb your doing good. March is hit or miss and this year the weather sucks so no way I'm going door knocking in 30 degree temps.
If you have a company for 20 years and your office rent isn't paid, that's failure!
If you can't pay your employees but yet still expect them to work, that's failure!
If you arnt paying suppliers for materials when clearly every job materials are paid for by the customer, that's failure!
When you can't keep employees, that's failure!
When your ship is sinking and you do nothing but blame others rather then participate in any efforts to save it, that's failure
I'm not gonna go canvass, meet customers, sell jobs, order materials, search for a crew, be a production manager, collect the payments, bring the money to the office, for part of the profit. I might as well be in business for myself and sell the jobs 20% cheaper and make the same amount of money for the same amount of work, better yet sell 10% cheaper and make more.
Congratulations looser you failed. You lost a company, ill go work for someone else :-)
In my eyes I have witnessed absolute failure. He's a lil background on the story, I have been in the roofing business for 20+ years. Many years as an installer then in sales since 2002. In 2006 I went to work for a good friend, he had no other salesmen at the time. I have sold between 400 and 600 thousand dollars a year since I worked there. There has been many ups and downs, tons of disagreements over the years, but normally works itself out.
In 2006 there was a large hail storm I came back to ohio to work for Paramount sold lots, in 2008 there was a large windstorm, I brought on a couple sales guys I knew, he gathered a few guys he knew and we all made good money. In 2009 the wind blew again and created tons of work. We had a receptionist, a production manager, an administrator, an owner and a few sales guys. By 2010 almost all was gone except me, the receptionist and 1 sales guy, the owners wife took over administrator position. This leaving the production manager job on my back on top of a salesman position.
There was a small hail storm and the bother salesman wouldn't go canvas and the owner wouldn't help. Even though I was frustrated I went out and knocked as many doors as I could and brought in like 200,000 in sales. Since then everyone had left. A few of his daughters have worked as a receptionist here and there. As the down hill slide continued they left so all phone calls were being forwarded to my cell phone. Now I'm a salesman, productions manager, and a receptionist. On top of that we don't have any dedicated crews so if I sell something I have to round up a crew to do it, order materials, somewhat supervise the job, and collect the money. If any previous customers call with a leak or concern I have to go out and look at it, if there's an issue, I have to either Handle it or do paper work, then find a crew. Cause this part of the job as no potential commission I get a $300 dollar a month gas check. Other then that I get paid on a profit split of 50% that works like this,
Sell a job at $10,000
20% off the top for admin fee. -$ 2,000
Labor and materials ?????? -$ 6,000
Profit -$ 2,000
50/50 split we each get $ 1,000
Profit splits are normally between 6% and 12% but can be higher if jobs are sold high.
Man this I getting long sorry!
This year no year end bonus, didn't sell any less than last year. Had to beg for my gas check in feb. haven't got a gas check for march. Since I'm the only employee that does everything, I'm to blame for it all. Winter is always hit or miss around here, if you sell in dec jan feb your doing good. March is hit or miss and this year the weather sucks so no way I'm going door knocking in 30 degree temps.
If you have a company for 20 years and your office rent isn't paid, that's failure!
If you can't pay your employees but yet still expect them to work, that's failure!
If you arnt paying suppliers for materials when clearly every job materials are paid for by the customer, that's failure!
When you can't keep employees, that's failure!
When your ship is sinking and you do nothing but blame others rather then participate in any efforts to save it, that's failure
I'm not gonna go canvass, meet customers, sell jobs, order materials, search for a crew, be a production manager, collect the payments, bring the money to the office, for part of the profit. I might as well be in business for myself and sell the jobs 20% cheaper and make the same amount of money for the same amount of work, better yet sell 10% cheaper and make more.
Congratulations looser you failed. You lost a company, ill go work for someone else :-)
