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    Default Re: have burnt 3 pistons :-(

    Quote Originally Posted by Murderedout07 View Post
    How the hell do you hold boost for 10-12 miles?
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    Default Re: have burnt 3 pistons :-(

    Here are some better pictures of pistons.

    I understand from those of your posts, the problem is a bad fuel in the future I can not drive so many miles under heavy boost
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    Default Re: have burnt 3 pistons :-(

    Again, I melted pistons.
    Is it possible that about 18 PSI, and the few seconds, fatal for the engine?
    Whenever I ride the bike a big boost, it only takes a few seconds, no intercooler, fuel is 95 octane?

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    Default Re: have burnt 3 pistons :-(

    Quote Originally Posted by Gixer View Post
    Again, I melted pistons.
    Is it possible that about 18 PSI, and the few seconds, fatal for the engine?
    Whenever I ride the bike a big boost, it only takes a few seconds, no intercooler, fuel is 95 octane?
    NO INTER-COOLER, 18PSI, and 95 octane fuel.....

    ...uh.....ya, it won't live long like that....

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    Default Re: have burnt 3 pistons :-(

    How much max boost is allowed for the engine without the intercooler? (Cylinder spacer 2 mm).
    thank you

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    Default Re: have burnt 3 pistons :-(

    I've encountered this same problem, with so much heat under our fuel tank my fuel line kinked. The first year or so the lines are ok, but they weaken due to age and heat and the constant bending. The fuel was restricted (inlet side of external pump)...leaned out motor..melted pistons. CHECK and replace your inlet fuel lines at your fuel pump..

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    Default Re: have burnt 3 pistons :-(

    I had no problems with fuel pressure.
    AFR is constant (approximately 10.5 - 11:1).
    I am usually more interested in how much boost is allowed, if I have the stock pistons, connecting rods, and if I have no intercooler?

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    Default Re: have burnt 3 pistons :-(

    depends how its tuned, if you have full ign control and able to moniter knock and egt
    you say you have 8.5:1 compression , 10-12 should be fairly safe in general, 15 if you have a good tuner and can reduce the timing as the motor needs
    but realistically if you want these sort of power levels get an intercooler , improve your safety margin and hp output
    Stock pistons and rods will be the physical limit not just when stuff melts

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    Default Re: have burnt 3 pistons :-(

    I use the editor and Megasquirt ECU for the secondary injectors.
    Is it enough to move the ignition map, for 3° above the 80% TPS and 6000 RPM
    Can the 12 PSI expect about 300 RWHP?
    Thank you very much

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    Default Re: have burnt 3 pistons :-(

    Quote Originally Posted by Gixer View Post
    I use the editor and Megasquirt ECU for the secondary injectors.
    Is it enough to move the ignition map, for 3° above the 80% TPS and 6000 RPM
    Can the 12 PSI expect about 300 RWHP?
    Thank you very much
    You need to get your bike professionally tuned if you can, you're asking alot by trying to tune yourself with those boost levels. You need to start with a good safe tune for your bike and don't get boost greedy, you're only going to get so much power out of your set-up safely. So many guys keep throwing boost at their bikes hoping for more power than the set-up can realistically and safely produce.
    Good tune
    Good working parts
    Good fuel
    Pull timing
    Don't get boost greedy

    and let me add......don't get boost greedy

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    Default Re: have burnt 3 pistons :-(

    Can I ask for an example ignition maps so as not to melt the third set of pistons
    Unfortunately, near me there is no one with a turbo bike (I'm the only one within about 1000 miles )

    Thanks again

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    Default Re: have burnt 3 pistons :-(

    Hmmmm, Fuel was 1 of your culprits. Not enough timing retarded was another. I use VP-16 on all my nitrous and turbo applications. You always want a long burning fuel. Welcome to to the world of modified motors.
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    Default Re: have burnt 3 pistons :-(

    Yes, there is no end
    Where you could get an example ignition maps for turbo Hayabusa?
    Thanks

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    Default Re: have burnt 3 pistons :-(

    8 lbs will be safe.
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    Default Re: have burnt 3 pistons :-(

    ouch!!
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    Default Re: have burnt 3 pistons :-(

    yup, I think seting your boost at 8 to 10 pounds might help, plus you need racing gas at 110 octane or higher. If it lives at 8psi of boost, then you can work up from there. Since your having part throttle issues I would get a higher octane gasoline right away. You need to start low grasshopper and learn from there. Good Luck!

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    Default Re: have burnt 3 pistons :-(

    Thank you
    Next weekend the turbo back on the bike so we'll see.

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