Wisconsin wtf ?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Blanca BusaLess, Mar 10, 2011.

  1. Blanca BusaLess

    Blanca BusaLess Suffers from PBSD Donating Member


    Is this what happens when there's no beach ? :laugh:
  2. busabeast

    busabeast likes to pass cars Registered

    looks like theres a whole lotta beachin goin on :rofl:
  3. chrisjp

    chrisjp GM of Haya's in the Hills Donating Member

    its only the beginning boys...hunker down its going to be a wild ride!!
  4. m_ridgeway

    m_ridgeway pipeline trash Donating Member

    wonder what the new scapegoat will be when the budget is still out of balance. funny how all these employees are such a burden yet they dont want to lay any of them off.
  5. PandaNin

    PandaNin Donating Member Registered

    Lay off a government worker and they collect unemployment. Then they're still taking but no longer giving. At least if they're working they are (hopefully) contributing.

    I understand the rationale of not wanting to lay them off.
  6. m_ridgeway

    m_ridgeway pipeline trash Donating Member

    if that were the case they would not have threatened to lay them off if they retained collective bargaining
  7. Hayabusa4life

    Hayabusa4life I said Good Day! Registered

    This been on the news lately. There are lot of teachers that took off today to go protest, I wanted to go there just to make some noise.
  8. Runner44

    Runner44 Registered

    The teachers in our area were docked their pay from the February 18th demo at the Capital. Also a letter of reprimand was added to their file. In addition, teachers that chose not to demonstrate and those that did are required to make up the time lost to their students. I am remaining neurtral on this subject!
  9. Pardini

    Pardini Donating Member

    The public pension system is a house of cards. It's not sustainable. It has to be fixed. It's going to hurt. The longer the fix is put off the more it's going to hurt.
  10. dadofthree

    dadofthree Seasoned Beef Donating Member

    Not involved, don't keep up with the news, not that they report the truth anymore. I agree, when times were great and the tax payers could handle the burden it was nice, but now it's reality time.
  11. chrisjp

    chrisjp GM of Haya's in the Hills Donating Member

    Why are police and firemen worthy of barganing? No say in your pension??? I wont be neutral.... Stop pork barrel agendas and balance budget
  12. m_ridgeway

    m_ridgeway pipeline trash Donating Member

    those type of real causes and issues are harder targets because the people pointing the gun would be doing so at themselves.
  13. Rainbow7

    Rainbow7 Registered

    I do believe that employees have the right to bargain collectively, but the problem is that they always end up taking it too far, demanding too much and protecting people who deserve to be fired.
  14. superbeagle

    superbeagle Registered

    Do you know what the average teacher in Wisconsin makes? They average just over $52,600 a year. Now the kicker. They do not pay for there heath insurance, have a full pension.
  15. x-d-x

    x-d-x Registered

    Quite the angry little mob.
  16. TWT racer

    TWT racer Registered

    I'm afraid you're right, Man!!
  17. legion rider

    legion rider Registered

    The problem with collective barganing is the polititions are getting big donations from the unions. That would be like the CEO of a publicly held company getting kick backs from a union he is negotiating with. I don't think the share holders would be too happy. Well think of it this way we are the share holders. I don't know about you but I have to pay towards my health insurance and pension.

    A little story an uncle of mine was a school superintendant at a small school district in Illinois. At 54 he received a full pension with full insurance. This was a good 15 yrs. ago. I can't emagine how much he will collect in his remaining lifetime. But I asure you it will be a lot more than most of us who pay the bill will.

    BUSA CRUSEN Registered

    I like that sign on the left. "Removing collective bargaining does not balance the budget"....Umm ya, but its a pretty big start!!! I don't understand how the teachers and other protesters can't seem to figure out that the system that pays their wages can't afford to do so anymore and needs to change. I don't think public workers should be allowed to have unions anyway. The unions get way to greedy and when the liberal law makers can't say no to the unions you get unsustainalble wages and benefits. I hope every state copies wisconsin!!!
  19. BusaWhipped

    BusaWhipped Moderator

    How can they live on that?
  20. TWT racer

    TWT racer Registered

    There's an easy solution to when the Unions are so strong and systems just can not afford to pay them... just simply bankrupt the state, break all Union contracts and start a fresh, at a level everyone can live and the state can pay

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