Jink.......all respect here first and foremost OK?While I would never take anything away from anyone who "Serves"?..as a former US Marine I must say this....and maybe it was because I expected so much from the title of thios post but...that weapons retention training is bunk and completely unrealistic....therefore?...to me?....relatively un-impressive...for the following reasons...
1. If you got yourself in a situation where you're struggling to retain your own damn weapon from an aggressor?..you already screwed up big time.
2. Not even a minimally trained aggressor is going to "Play Wrestle On The Ground" (with no lethal blows or strikes)with you in an effort to relieve you of your weapon...they will be kicking the dog shid outta ya....dropping elbows on the back of your neck and spine..kneeing your ribcage into a bag-o-bones until your upper body sounds like a bag of fritos corn chips and delivering lethal blows and strikes to your head...and somewhere's along the line you WILL let go...conscious or not..but what they won't be doing is what we witnessed here.
and was it me or did some of those folks standing on the side-lines have some rather large guts (for "special forces" types) ?
Sorry to be so cynical but I saw far harsher yet impressive shid than that in basic training at parris island...circa '77
L8R, Bill.
I understand...and I'll even offer up my most profuse apologies as ya'll are right...it wasn't a nice thing to say...he11...I even felt bad typing/saying it but?..it was my true thoughts and feelings and not in the way that anyone is lacking effort or honor but that I just wish they had better training afforded them as in.."More Realistic"...cause imnsho?..rolling on the ground playing "Can You Take This Away From Me" is nothing like what these great soldiers would experience of an aggressor who is "Fighting For Their Life"...and I'm not saying that "Weapons Retention Training" doesn't have it's place or that such training is of absolutelly no value buty I also wouldn't want those soldiers to think that such training is anything even close to what they would and very well may encounter in the field...as I see them offering their body to retain their weapon at all costs and that's a loser baby...big time...as a real enemy..even if unarmed will pick up a pipe or 2x4 or butt-stroke'em and crush their grape for'em...not good...not "real"...I've been around old school recon and forced recon...and those guys were like robotic, psychotic killing machines...and they don't "wrestle"...but they will put about a dozen Kabar stabs and slices on ya before ya ever realize they unsheathed their knife...now think if the enemy has such...I'd want my troops engaged in far more intensive training than wrestling toy guns away from each other...for their sake....their best chances at survival in the most hostile of situations...fighting for their very lives.Jink.......all respect here first and foremost OK?While I would never take anything away from anyone who "Serves"?..as a former US Marine I must say this....and maybe it was because I expected so much from the title of thios post but...that weapons retention training is bunk and completely unrealistic....therefore?...to me?....relatively un-impressive...for the following reasons...
1. If you got yourself in a situation where you're struggling to retain your own damn weapon from an aggressor?..you already screwed up big time.
2. Not even a minimally trained aggressor is going to "Play Wrestle On The Ground" (with no lethal blows or strikes)with you in an effort to relieve you of your weapon...they will be kicking the dog shid outta ya....dropping elbows on the back of your neck and spine..kneeing your ribcage into a bag-o-bones until your upper body sounds like a bag of fritos corn chips and delivering lethal blows and strikes to your head...and somewhere's along the line you WILL let go...conscious or not..but what they won't be doing is what we witnessed here.
and was it me or did some of those folks standing on the side-lines have some rather large guts (for "special forces" types) ?
Sorry to be so cynical but I saw far harsher yet impressive shid than that in basic training at parris island...circa '77
L8R, Bill.
with all respect.....not cool man...not cool at all. Paul is away from home for over a year....he's proud of his sailors...and rightly so. He tries to share with us what he's been doing and you have this?? You know the saying right? If you dont have nothing nice to say.....don't say anything at all.........and I'm biting my tongue to say nothing else. I've got nothing else to say to you.......period. Dont even reply because I'll just get way pissed off at you.
Peace
Sled
