Presidential character

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"The public cannot be too curious concerning the characters of public men." —Samuel Adams

In his Inaugural Address on 20 January, 1961, President John F. Kennedy closed his remarks with these famous words: "And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country."

With those words, JFK, considered by many to be the most exemplary leader of the Democrat Party in the 20th Century, asked Americans to put country first, a bedrock principle of the Party until the last few decades.

However today, the current slate of Democrats have turned Jack Kennedy's national challenge on end, essentially proclaiming, "ask what your country can do for you, not what you can do for your country."

In 1963, Martin Luther King stood on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial and said for all to hear, "I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

Has his dream been realized, or have Democrat leaders divided us up into constituency groups, where we are judged by all manner of ethnicity and special interests rather than the individual and national character King envisioned?

Kennedy and King had it right, but the Democrat Party has squandered their great legacy, and betrayed us, moreover enslaving many Americans as dependant wards of the state.

This is not the Democrat Party envisioned by Franklin Delano Roosevelt or Harry Truman, much less its founder, Thomas Jefferson, who would not recognize even the most vestigial elements of his once-noble Party. (This dramatic transition is evident in the Democrat Party Platforms from Kennedy to Obama.)

When asked why he left the Democrat Party, perhaps the most famous of former Democrats said, "I did not leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left me." That was Ronald Reagan, who earned the respect and support of an enormous number of Democrats during his presidency. His observation, "the Party left me," has never been more true than today.

For several months, we have heard and observed two presidential candidates, centrist Republican John McCain and liberal Democrat Barack Obama. It should by now, be obvious to all of us who put our country first, which of these candidates possess the high qualities of a statesman, and the prerequisite moral and civic virtues for an American president.

Unfortunately, too many of my fellow Americans have difficulty distinguishing these qualities.

Every four years, at the peak of presidential election cycles, we're told by the talkingheads and the party hacks that "this election is the most important in our lifetimes." This time, however, they may be right. These are indeed perilous times.

Our nation is facing crises on several critical fronts, including an historic economic disaster, the resolution of which will require the steady hand of a statesman in possession of outstanding character — character that has been honed over his lifetime, character that is proven consistent with our nation's legacy of liberty and equality.

That reformed Democrat, Ronald Reagan, wrote, "The character that takes command in moments of crucial choices has already been determined by a thousand other choices made earlier in seemingly unimportant moments. It has been determined by all the 'little' choices of years past — by all those times when the voice of conscience was at war with the voice of temptation, [which was] whispering the lie that 'it really doesn't matter.' It has been determined by all the day-to-day decisions made when life seemed easy and crises seemed far away — the decision that, piece by piece, bit by bit, developed habits of discipline or of laziness; habits of self-sacrifice or self-indulgence; habits of duty and honor and integrity — or dishonor and shame."

For the first and final word on the necessary character traits the next president should possess, let's return to our foundation, our Founders, those who risked all to proclaim our individual rights and responsibilities as ordained by God, and outlined them in our Declaration of Independence and its subordinate exposition, our Republic's Constitution.

Our Founders wrote at length about character, both of those who seek high office (or, rather, those that high office seeks), and those who elect them. Here are but a few excerpts in their own words.

John Adams: "Children should be educated and instructed in the principles of freedom. ... If we suffer [the minds of young people] to grovel and creep in infancy, they will grovel all their lives. ... We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. ... We should be unfaithful to ourselves if we should ever lose sight of the danger to our liberties if anything partial or extraneous should infect the purity of our free, fair, virtuous, and independent elections."

Samuel Adams: "Nothing is more essential to the establishment of manners in a State than that all persons employed in places of power and trust must be men of unexceptionable characters. ... If men of wisdom and knowledge, of moderation and temperance, of patience, fortitude and perseverance, of sobriety and true republican simplicity of manners, of zeal for the honour of the Supreme Being and the welfare of the commonwealth; if men possessed of these other excellent qualities are chosen to fill the seats of government, we may expect that our affairs will rest on a solid and permanent foundation. ... [N]either the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. ... No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders. ... Let each citizen remember at the moment he is offering his vote that he is not making a present or a compliment to please an individual — or at least that he ought not so to do; but that he is executing one of the most solemn trusts in human society for which he is accountable to God and his country. ... Religion and good morals are the only solid foundation of public liberty and happiness."


At the end of the Revolution, when our Founders were endeavoring "to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity," Founding brothers Alexander Hamilton and John Jay and our Constitution's author, James Madison, wrote The Federalist Papers, its most authentic and comprehensive explication.

In Federalist No. 1, Hamilton warned, "Of those men who have overturned the liberties of republics, the greatest number have begun their career by paying an obsequious court to the people, commencing demagogues and ending tyrants."

Sound familiar?

In No. 10, Madison cautions, "Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm," and insisted in No. 57, "The aim of every political Constitution is or ought to be first to obtain for rulers, men who possess most wisdom to discern, and most virtue to pursue the common good of the society; and in the next place, to take the most effectual precautions for keeping them virtuous, whilst they continue to hold their public trust."

Madison's Supreme Court nominee, Justice Joseph Story, wrote, "Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall, when the wise are banished from the public councils, because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded, because they flatter the people, in order to betray them."

The Founders thus warned of the perils posed by the candidate who lacks political courage; the candidate who tells us everything we want to hear.

In November 1800, John Adams, in his fourth year as president, wrote to his wife Abigail, "I Pray Heaven to bestow the best of blessing on this house, and on ALL that shall hereafter inhabit it. May none but honest and wise men ever rule under this roof!"

We should all pray likewise, now, today, this minute.

As Adams understood, "A Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever."

Almost two centuries later, Ronald Reagan reiterated, "Freedom is ... never more than one generation away from extinction. Every generation has to learn how to protect and defend it, or it's gone and gone for a long, long time."

So, what of the current generation of voters, and the two presidential candidates?

On 4 November, one of these candidates will receive a majority of electoral votes, and in January, be seated as our next president. But for sure, this election is much more than a referendum on the two candidates; it is a referendum on the ability of Americans to discern between one candidate who possesses the character and integrity of a statesman, which the office of president requires, and one who does not.

At this pivotal moment in our nation's history, let's hope that a majority of us have sufficient courage and character to make that distinction, and vote on what we know rather than how we feel.

Let's put country first.
 
I wasn't curious enough about their characters to read all that.


Well:goodidea:, I was and did :thumbsup:

Shows just how far we've fallen :down:and unfortunately we're going to FALL even lower in the next 4 years at least. I heard some callers on a Radio Talk show today say the following POOP !

1) Federal Taxes should be 50% (meaning State and other should equal 70% in some areas :whistle:
2) The Government should own ALL property and houses, so we're allowed to live in them for FREE !
3) I'am going to VOTE for Obama because he will give me more MONEY, and I ain't got any. And Yes, Rich people should have lots of their money taken away and given to those who don't have as much. So much for the WORK HARD, take a risk :please:and be rewarded attitude .

This attitude is really Sad ! Talk about NATIONAL DECAY
 
it is a referendum on the ability of Americans to discern between one candidate who possesses the character and integrity of a statesman, which the office of president requires, and one who does not.

At this pivotal moment in our nation's history, let's hope that a majority of us have sufficient courage and character to make that distinction, and vote on what we know rather than how we feel.

I read and liked your post but I do not agree with this statement. I do not think anyone on this forum has ever met either canidate or knows them personally. I believe this election will be much closer than people think and I encourage everyone to vote. Also if you like one canidate I would appreciate it if you would just promote the ideas or whatever that canidate has and not talk negatively about the other. If you were to apply for a job would tell the employer what you bring to the table or would you ask to see info about the other applicants and then talk bad about them.
 
I do not consider myself a Republican or a Democrat..or affiliate myself with any other party.

Although this post does lean toward a Republican view...it was an email that was sent to me today. I had to remove some of the content because it was too long.

I have voted for both Democrats, Republicans.....and even Ross Perot.

The message in the post, to me, was that we have diverted from our foundation and are watching as our nation is drawn down a path that we all should recognize as less than ideal.

It is highly unlikely the majority of voters will ever meet or truly understand any candidate in any level of elections....kind of have to use your gut feelings as most reports that are given a biased.

I have avoided posting in the political threads because they get very heated and chat forums do not show true intent of many statements...only perception on the other end.

My wish is..... I wish we could vote for any candidate as we see fit, from any party. Lets say I would want Obama and Palin.....or McCain and Biden.....or Obama and McCain. How great would it be to vote for who you truly want without party affiliation or idealogy?

FLAME AWAY!!!:cheerleader:
 
My Vote:

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Man I would never put that on your nice truck, there are enough left extreemists out there that some A-hole would paint over that or vandalize your ride some how given the opportunity. Same for the other party too!:whistle:
 
Well:goodidea:, I was and did :thumbsup:

Shows just how far we've fallen :down:and unfortunately we're going to FALL even lower in the next 4 years at least. I heard some callers on a Radio Talk show today say the following POOP !

1) Federal Taxes should be 50% (meaning State and other should equal 70% in some areas :whistle:
2) The Government should own ALL property and houses, so we're allowed to live in them for FREE !
3) I'am going to VOTE for Obama because he will give me more MONEY, and I ain't got any. And Yes, Rich people should have lots of their money taken away and given to those who don't have as much. So much for the WORK HARD, take a risk :please:and be rewarded attitude .

This attitude is really Sad ! Talk about NATIONAL DECAY

and fallen your right! ...YOUR RIGHT, we have fallen to such a level...FEDERAL TAX SHOULD BE 50% AND IN SOME AREA 70%,....LAST TIME I CHECKED GOD HIMSELF ONLY REQUIRED 10%!...
 
From Sunday's Televised "Meet the Press" Senator Obama was asked about his stance on the American Flag. Obama Explains National Anthem Stance

Sun, 07 Sept.. 2008 11:48:04 EST, General Bill Ginn' USAF (ret.) asked Obama
to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.

The General also stated to the Senator that according to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171... During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. At the very least, "Stand and Face It"

Senator Obama Live on Sunday states, "As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sidesâ€￾, Obama said. “There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like To Teach the World To Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.â€￾

"We should consider to reinvent our National Anthem as well as to redesign our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love. It's my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we as a Nation of warring people, should conduct ourselves as the nations of Islam, whereas peace prevails. Perhaps a state or period of mutual concord between our governments. When I become President, I will seek a pact or agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive thoughts. We as a Nation have placed upon the nations of Islam an unfair injustice. My wife disrespects the Flag for many personal reasons. Together she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past, many years ago. She has her views and I have mine. Of course now, I have found myself about to become the President of the United States and I have put aside my hatred. I will use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new path of hope. My wife and I look forward to becoming our Country's First Family.â€￾
Indeed, CHANGE is about to overwhelm the United States of America .

WHAAAAAAAT the Hell !!!

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, you heard it right. This could possibly be our next President.

I, for one, am speechless.

Dale Lindsborg ,

Washington Post
 
as I've said before...you know McCain bleeds red, white, and blue...you just don't know about Obama.

Anyone read Revelations...:whistle:
 
:rulez::poke::rulez:
OK...I am pretty conservative and i am voting for Palin and the guy behind her. But I cant abide people passing on stupid crap. This type of stuff rates right below chain emails :lol: claiming that Bill Gates is sending people to Disney Land. Before you post it send it through SNOPES.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/stance.asp


What will you find? A big fat FALSE!!!
 
:rulez::poke::rulez:
OK...I am pretty conservative and i am voting for Palin and the guy behind her. But I cant abide people passing on stupid crap. This type of stuff rates right below chain emails :lol: claiming that Bill Gates is sending people to Disney Land. Before you post it send it through SNOPES.

snopes.com: Obama Explains National Anthem Stance


What will you find? A big fat FALSE!!!

yeah whatever...I don't worry about researching everything cause I figure the board internet police will take care of it :laugh:

However...my assesment still stands, you just don't know about obama.
 
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