Your thoughts on this topic.... Right or wrong

[captain]

Boston Mayor Blocks Chick-fil-A Franchise from City over Homophobic Attitude | NewsFeed | TIME.com

Regardless if your personal views on the LGBT situation do you think that the mayor has the authority to ban this company because he doesn't like their message? Do you see a problem with a Mayor taking this stand against a legal business because he doesn't like them?

[Gpmo]

Absolutely has the power to do so. He was voted in by the public to run the city and do his best for public interest and to keep it safe and discrimination free. It is in public intrest to squash discrimination. I feel he is doing his city a service by saying he will not allow a company that is so openly discriminatory to do buisnes. Its the same as keeping a proper police and fire protection imho. If the folks that live there don't agree with his actions they can vote him out at the end of his term.

As for me I won't be providing Chic Filet any more of my money. Not that i ate there often but i will spread the word to my friends and family.

[moloko]

He clearly has the power to do so, but does he have a right to discriminate against the discriminators? (though they claim to be indiscriminate in hiring and serving practices)

I'd hope enough people dislike the business enough to force them under rather than forcing them out like this.

People have the right to hate, you can't get past base emotions, or take them away. Nothing you can really do about it other than make sure they don't harm others. If I wanted to open a business and being a supporter of a message that wasn't popular, I wouldn't care to be denied that right.

It's a two way street, and while I may not agree with them or their stance, I don't think this is the way to go about dealing with the issue.

I simply won't eat there.

[fallenarch]

When you exercise your right of free speach that doesn't mean that the people who you offend can't make you wish you had kept your mouth shut. Why would a company like Chick-Fil-A be so involved in an issue like that anyway? What does gay rights have to do with the price of chicken anyway?

I don't know if the mayor has the legal authority to stop Chick-fil-a but if he feels it's best for the community then why not? If the people disagree with his decision they can vote him out. There is no answer to your poll that matches my opinion BTW.

[captain]

So if a mayor lets say in Tennessee wanted to stop a pro LGBT company from doing business does he have that right too?

[Gpmo]

So if a mayor lets say in Tennessee wanted to stop a pro LGBT company from doing business does he have that right too?

Does the said LGBT buisnes make it a part of their buisnes to support discrimination against another group of people? If so i say yes.

I've regularly supported local buisnes with my money knowing they are of one religious group or another and will continue but if said buisnes is actively supporting the discrimination and limiting of civil rights of another group of people then its in the public intrest to not support that buisnes.

[moloko]

So if a mayor lets say in Tennessee wanted to stop a pro LGBT company from doing business does he have that right too?

This was my point.

[fallenarch]

I think if a business is pumping money into a political fight on an issue they make themselves a target and so fair game. I don't see that as discrimination so much. Again if the community is ok with it then whatever.

Now if a mayor said no white or Catholic owned businesses that would be discrimination. But if the business has a specific point of view that they are pushing that's different. Like if a business said only gay people were welcome that would be out. If a gay owned business was in every other way just like any other business, then you can't kick then out just because they are owned by gay people.

[captain]

I think if a business is pumping money into a political fight on an issue they make themselves a target and so fair game. I don't see that as discrimination so much. Again if the community is ok with it then whatever.

Now if a mayor said no white or Catholic owned businesses that would be discrimination. But if the business has a specific point of view that they are pushing that's different. Like if a business said only gay people were welcome that would be out. If a gay owned business was in every other way just like any other business, then you can't kick then out just because they are owned by gay people.

So this company has no legal complaints against them, they are operating well within the law... You are telling me now that it is okay to discriminate because they don't agree with the mayor? Really? A private company that is in good legal standing can be blacklisted because you disagree with the message of the owner! You can disagree with the message all you want but in the end this mayor is going to lose if this issue is pressed.... You can't block a company because you don't like what the owner believes in... I thought we might get a response like this but I am still amazed that it happened so quickly. What I hear from you guys is that it's okay to discriminate as long as you agree with the cause...

You can't have it both ways fellas...

[Blanca Busa]

Hmmmmm.....?

Ok so I'll attempt to tread lightly......

Let's see? A privately owned company successful in a free country donates to Christian groups who are against the lgbt movement and is ridiculed and ostracized? Imagine the opposite? Hmmm?
The owner of said chain expresses his own personal beliefs ones which as far as I know he is still entitled to and is ridiculed and ostracized? Imagine the opposite? Hmmm?
The policy of said privately owned company and it's owners views don't agree with those in power and it/he is ridiculed and ostracized? Imagine the opposite? Hmmm?

Let's see? A company opens up and everyone there is gay and their whole theme embraces it, folks protest and are told to grow up, get over it and move along, it's a modern world, no place for religious intolerance.

I always get myself into trouble in these threads Capt....

Chick fil A has every right to think the way the want same as any other company. Don't like it change the channel, don't go there and move along. But now we have one in power who doesn't agree with a certain companies policies and in my mind is abusing his authority.


This is something I never knew about chick fil a and I for one will be having lunch there tomorrow.
I'll eat there and support their right to be as they want as it should be. And yes that means gays should be the way they want to be as well. I don't believe in or approve of their lifestyle but I make no active effort to change them. I'll mind mine they mind theirs, but it seems the other side is constantly trying to tear down walls and force their acceptance on us.

Anyway it doesn't matter as who can live without their waffle fries and hand spun milk shakes?

[raydog]

I wouldn't eat there if they were all gay or not....they serve chicken that is pumped full of antibiotics, chicken that barely live, and in squalor. Their health becomes our health.

[chrisjp]

let me throw this out here... we have freedom of religion... Muslims in this country can discriminate against females. force them to cover up and do things we think are "discriminatory" but they are allowed... if that is their religious belief... and they refuse to hire only something their religion says is wrong... who are we to judge them for refusing to bow to those wanting to force their will upon them. dont apply there. there are many other places to work. we have separation of church and state for a reason... believe its in the bill of rights and our forefathers foresaw the damage it causes and put it in to our foundation of our country

[Big Bo]

****ing Liberals. These *******s think they know what is BEST for us all. Mayor is a ****ing *******. Let the masses decide if they want to patronise Chick Filet. I will continue being a customer of Chick Filet.

[captain]

Does the said LGBT buisnes make it a part of their buisnes to support discrimination against another group of people? If so i say yes.

I've regularly supported local buisnes with my money knowing they are of one religious group or another and will continue but if said buisnes is actively supporting the discrimination and limiting of civil rights of another group of people then its in the public intrest to not support that buisnes.

It's irrelevant, if the business is operating in a legal fashion, no hiring discrimination, nothing to base the denial on other than the mayor doesn't like the beliefs of the private owner of the company... The owner can support anything he wants with his proceeds..... So what I hear is that as long as the discrimination is pro your side then its okay to do what you feel is best for the masses? Is that correct? If this were true then wouldn't the Mosque that was put in NY be denied too?

[black diamond busa]

I agree with what the mayor did and I am not against lgbt. He did what he thought was best for the town. I live in Michigan and I know of a couple towns in northern Michigan that didn't let wal mart put up a store in there city. Was that wrong of them to do that too?

[captain]

I agree with what the mayor did and I am not against lgbt. He did what he thought was best for the town. I live in Michigan and I know of a couple towns in northern Michigan that didn't let wal mart put up a store in there city. Was that wrong of them to do that too?

There is a difference in a zoning restriction or even denying for the best interest of business in the community but when you come right out and make a discriminatory comment and make that your sole reason that makes him way out of line and anything else this mayor tries to deny will end up just being an secondary excuse....

[black diamond busa]

Yeah I see what you mean cap. I guess I can see both sides of this coin. What I find interesting is that if you go to the bottom of the article to comments. There is a gay man saying he thinks what the mayor did was wrong and the business can have any views they want.

[Gpmo]

I wouldn't eat there if they were all gay or not....they serve chicken that is pumped full of antibiotics, chicken that barely live, and in squalor. Their health becomes our health.

This is Very true.

[Gpmo]

It's irrelevant, if the business is operating in a legal fashion, no hiring discrimination, nothing to base the denial on other than the mayor doesn't like the beliefs of the private owner of the company... The owner can support anything he wants with his proceeds..... So what I hear is that as long as the discrimination is pro your side then its okay to do what you feel is best for the masses? Is that correct? If this were true then wouldn't the Mosque that was put in NY be denied too?

No you are not hearing it right. The mayors job is to do what he feels is best for the community at large. He made a choice about this company and believes its beliefs are not in line with his city's belief system and therefore is denying their operation in his city. If the people think this was an incorrect choice then they can vote him out next election.

You are right. The owner can support whom ever he or she likes with their money that is their right. It's also the right of people to choose not to do business with them and shut them out of their community's because of those choices.

As for the whole as long as its pro your side argument, Note that this constantly happens with adult book and novelty stores and strip clubs. These are legal business but are often shut out of city's because its felt they are not in line with city's beliefs. Who shuts them down? The mayor and city council...... So is that ok?


And to be honest I'm not sure about the whole mosque in NY thing. I didn't follow the story very well and am Ill informed.

[raydog]

****ing Liberals. These *******s think they know what is BEST for us all. Mayor is a ****ing *******. Let the masses decide if they want to patronise Chick Filet. I will continue being a customer of Chick Filet.

There you go "Big Bo" ruining this subject with your lack of style and shortsightedness, could've been a fun thread but I'm out of here.