Different Presidents, A different Corps

[skydivr]

SEMPER FI!

HOOORAAAAA

[mike1180]

Wow.

[TruWrecks]

Some have it, some don't.

[thrasherfox]

I cant see I cant see!! what is it!! (I hate work networks)

[VaBusa]

Speaks volumes...all part of the "change" I guess...

[VaBusa]

Originally Posted by thrasherfox

I cant see I cant see!! what is it!! (I hate work networks)

Just a video showing the warm welcome GWB received vs. the cooler response B-Rock gets from our Marines

[mrsBusawhipped]

Ouch!

[CBXRider]

Aren't you assuming quite a bit that's not present in this video? Maybe they had different orders or different circumstances. They're all at attention when the President arrives. Or, are you just blindly following dubya out the door, cheering all the way like most of us?

[coreywiley]

That video means nothing. bush had a more relax setting than Obama. Obama's crowd was formal meaning like at the Pentago or something. There's not going to be a whole lot of scream and hollowering going on.Trust me it makes a difference.

[afterhours]

inspite what the media would like to you to think....the military is not big suporters of any democrat, and especially not one that has ideals that undermine what they have been working hard to do over the last few years.

they know that although obama used iraq as big campaign tool, he never once had stepped a foot there.

besides...where is the change, all i see is business as usual for washington, whom ever is the Commander in Chief.

[mike1180]

Originally Posted by CBXRider

Aren't you assuming quite a bit that's not present in this video? Maybe they had different orders or different circumstances. They're all at attention when the President arrives. Or, are you just blindly following dubya out the door, cheering all the way like most of us?

Originally Posted by coreywiley

That video means nothing. bush had a more relax setting than Obama. Obama's crowd was formal meaning like at the Pentago or something. There's not going to be a whole lot of scream and hollowering going on.Trust me it makes a difference.

I guess there will be some videos posted one day giving Obama that warm welcome, and we will all just have to wait for them.

[pbghost]

Originally Posted by coreywiley

That video means nothing. bush had a more relax setting than Obama. Obama's crowd was formal meaning like at the Pentago or something. There's not going to be a whole lot of scream and hollowering going on.Trust me it makes a difference.

the Obama press conference was at camp lejune, north carolina (prolly misspelled, I know) according to the video, not the pentagon.

[dadofthree]

Never know will we

[thrasherfox]

There are subtle differances on how Marines repsond in regards to if they are acting a specific way because they want to or if they are forced to.

Both ways are respectful, neither is disrespectful. but both show the true feelings of a Marine. usually only another Marine can pick up on it.


I work with a guy who's brother was a Marine one pilot for President Clinton. and MY uncle was a Marine one pilot for President Nixon.

Apparently Clinton, Gore, their wives, their staff and family were less than respectful when they were on Marine One. shelling peanuts, throwing them on the floor, basically just throwing garabge everywhere on the aircraft knowing the Marines would have to pick up their garabage. Actually what was I was told was anyone who worked around that environment felt they were, well being exposed to pigs. They did not seem to show much respect for anyone in the military in private, and only did so in public when it was neccesary.

A lot of things went on that did not show respect to Marines, nor to Marine aircraft. If a Marine is not shown respect, you will only receive the respect back that is required.

If you show respect to a Marine, that Marine will usually die for you. Otherwise your life is pretty much meaningless.

I know when a Marine is standing at the entrance of Marine one, they will stand a certain way and salute a certain with if they respect you with their heart. and they will stand a differant way if they are doing it because they are required to.

I know with Clinton, if you watch videos of his interaction with Marines and then watch President Bush's interaction's with Marines you can figure it out.

[skydivr]

Originally Posted by CBXRider

Aren't you assuming quite a bit that's not present in this video? Maybe they had different orders or different circumstances. They're all at attention when the President arrives. Or, are you just blindly following dubya out the door, cheering all the way like most of us?

Frankly, I DID give that some thought (the venue) when I watched the video. But, in President Obama's video (and I do show respect to his office), you see the VIP's clapping (looks a little forced to me) which was an indication to the audience that they were supposed to clap, too - and they did, just more muted. The video for GWB was much more spontaneous. Very clear to me that it was a much different feeling.

Having spent 25 years in uniform, I know the difference between a respectful welcome and a genuine display of affection. I'm certain my brother Marines would agree.

[Mrs.Rubber2Burn]

Originally Posted by skydivr

Frankly, I DID give that some thought (the venue) when I watched the video. But, in President Obama's video (and I do show respect to his office), you see the VIP's clapping (looks a little forced to me) which was an indication to the audience that they were supposed to clap, too - and they did, just more muted. The video for GWB was much more spontaneous. Very clear to me that it was a much different feeling.

Having spent 25 years in uniform, I know the difference between a respectful welcome and a genuine display of affection. I'm certain my brother Marines would agree.

+1 very WELL stated. Although, I have been the Military Spouse and not the one wearing the uniform. I can tell you from having been at numerouse military events that there WAS a big difference. And YES I did see President Clinton in person as well as George W (each just once). Both presidents came and spoke at the Norfolk Naval Base when we were stationed there. With hubby deployed both times I went to the hangar where they were speaking and listened. There was a difference just between those two presidents.

[EvilMonkey DSK3]

I think your guy are reading to much into it.
These are completely different situations.
Mudslinging at its best!

[skydivr]

Originally Posted by EvilMonkey DSK3

I think your guy are reading to much into it.
These are completely different situations.
Mudslinging at its best!

Maybe. People tend to gravitate towards things that support their personal belief system - human nature - as a means of self-satisfaction.

But, given what I have personally seen, and know from personal experience, there is more truth to it than not. Kinda like the difference that GWB and Obama would get at an NAACP rally. Not a racist comment, just reality.

[winlite]

Do I remember in 2000 the the Gore Lieberman bunch did not want to count some of the overseas military vote?

[EvilMonkey DSK3]

wow are you guy's really gonna cry all 4 years ?
of course it will probally be 8 more years of crying