air shifter

[Munchie]

Originally Posted by bowwow

I bought the tank at Wal-Mart, but they don't fill them. I took it to a sporting goods store. I live by a ****'s Sporting Goods. The MPS box was straight foward wiring. I have mine set up through the horn button. I also got a MPS Switch Swapper. I can toggle back and forth from my horn and the air shift.

Sweet Bowwow! Thanks for the info man!

[Munchie]

Originally Posted by piratediverjefff

I have the Cycle-Tek setup with a 16oz. bottle(co2),has worked flawlessly for over a year and probably get 300 shifts per bottle(fill at local paintball store for $2.00).

I have a few more questions:

1. Do you know what pressure they charge your bottle to?
2. Not sure if you run with a pressure gage or not but, do you know what the minimum pressure has to be in order for your setup to work? I ask because I have unlimited access to a 90 PSI air supply (work), but I'm wondering if that's cool and how many shift one could expect.
3. Do they fill with plain ole' air or nitrogen?
4. Is it possible to fill with a "gas station tire filler-upper"? ...and anyone know what kinda pressure those things will generate? I was thinking you may be able to fabricate a fill tube to fill the tank on the bike for $0.75

[BusaWizard]

Dycks sporting goods is where I get mine filled. Won't let you spell it correctly.

[Munchie]

Originally Posted by BusaWizard

Dycks sporting goods is where I get mine filled. Won't let you spell it correctly.

Ahh...thanks Wizard!

[bowwow]

Originally Posted by BusaWizard

Dycks sporting goods is where I get mine filled. Won't let you spell it correctly.

Thats what I was trying to spell. Thanks.

[bowwow]

Originally Posted by Munchie

I have a few more questions:

1. Do you know what pressure they charge your bottle to?
2. Not sure if you run with a pressure gage or not but, do you know what the minimum pressure has to be in order for your setup to work? I ask because I have unlimited access to a 90 PSI air supply (work), but I'm wondering if that's cool and how many shift one could expect.
3. Do they fill with plain ole' air or nitrogen?
4. Is it possible to fill with a "gas station tire filler-upper"? ...and anyone know what kinda pressure those things will generate? I was thinking you may be able to fabricate a fill tube to fill the tank on the bike for $0.75

A CO2 bottle will be filled to about 1800 PSI. Way more than a nitrous bottle is ever filled to. You have to have some sort of pressure regulator to get your PSI down around 80. I have a gauge on mine, but it is after the pressure regulator, so it only shows how much is going to the air cylinder. You can get a 2000 PSI gauge at a hydraulic store, but they are bulky and expensive. A typical air compressor will only pump up to 175 PSI. You can fill a bottle like this, but it will only last 2 or 3 shifts. If you are drag racing, no problem. If you are on the street, you won't get out of your neighborhood before its empty. A on board air compressor will keep it full, but it will run constantly. I didn't want that kind of drain on my battery.

[bowwow]

You can use air, CO2, nitrogen, or even tee of off your nitrous bottle. (If you have nitrous) The main factor is cost. Air is free, but you have the cost of an air compressor. CO2 is cheap, but you have to have it filled somewhere. Nitrous works, but it cost more than anything else.

[Munchie]

Originally Posted by bowwow

A CO2 bottle will be filled to about 1800 PSI. Way more than a nitrous bottle is ever filled to. You have to have some sort of pressure regulator to get your PSI down around 80. I have a gauge on mine, but it is after the pressure regulator, so it only shows how much is going to the air cylinder. You can get a 2000 PSI gauge at a hydraulic store, but they are bulky and expensive. A typical air compressor will only pump up to 175 PSI. You can fill a bottle like this, but it will only last 2 or 3 shifts. If you are drag racing, no problem. If you are on the street, you won't get out of your neighborhood before its empty. A on board air compressor will keep it full, but it will run constantly. I didn't want that kind of drain on my battery.

Originally Posted by bowwow

You can use air, CO2, nitrogen, or even tee of off your nitrous bottle. (If you have nitrous) The main factor is cost. Air is free, but you have the cost of an air compressor. CO2 is cheap, but you have to have it filled somewhere. Nitrous works, but it cost more than anything else.

Wow dude! I did not realize those things were pressurized that high! I suppose my 90psi shop air might possibly make a full shift . So much for that idea...
Really good info though bowwow...puts things into a new perspective. I work with pnuematics and automation control, so I was thinking of this in different terms. This type of application is a completely unknown subject to me, so I "built the system in my head" as I thought it would lay out.

I'll do a lil more homework

Thanks for the info and quick replies.

[Mr Brown]

Ran CO2 before I put spray on. Paintball bottle lasted for months. Now t'd off the nitrous line. Works great. Get with Daniel (Golden Child) and talk about your options.