Thinking about a Hayabusa as a first bike?

[Heavy Metal]

Not sure of the bike this guy was riding but he hit the side of a bridge flipped off his bike and fell 85' down the the water here in Daytona the Other night, YES he servived... not sure all that happend but he had to hit his brakes and that all that was said...

[thesnake]

Metal ,

nice to see you were car-less in the early years. I didn't get a car until around 22. I drove my bike for daily transportation from permit age (15.9 yrs-22). Riding daily was a wonderful learning expereince-- specially trying to ride in rain, sleet, etc, etc. . Three accidents later (2 somewhat minor), I decided to get a car for these northern winters

Now if I lived in FLA, that would mean I could revert and be car-less once again!

glad to hear that guy lived. While riding today, a truck w/ trailer flipped on RT95 in my rear view mirror. I think he took out a few cars to say the least. Hopefully everyone is ok and for my sake, thank god the busa'a leading the way, not following!

[Heavy Metal]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (thesnake @ Aug. 07 2004,21:22)]Metal ,

nice to see you were car-less in the early years. I didn't get a car until around 22. I drove my bike for daily transportation from permit age (15.9 yrs-22). Riding daily was a wonderful learning expereince-- specially trying to ride in rain, sleet, etc, etc. . Three accidents later (2 somewhat minor), I decided to get a car for these northern winters

Now if I lived in FLA, that would mean I could revert and be car-less once again!

glad to hear that guy lived. While riding today, *a truck w/ trailer flipped on RT95 in my rear view mirror. I think he took out a few cars to say the least. Hopefully everyone is ok and for my sake, thank god the busa'a leading the way, not following!

Never had accident on my bikes per say with someone else dumped them or dumped them to avoid some ditzy bimbo who thought she had right of way comming out from the side road and cut me off, she had a car I had a bike, she said I should have been watching and more careful since she was in a car, cause her car was bigger than my bike, might be so I got up and used my helmet on the car LOL!!! did not look new anymore and I picked my bike up off the road and drove off...

other than that or my chain busted on onr of my bikes and I lost it and let it slide never did more than 200+ in damage to any of the bikes total...

Then I lost my last one to scum bags breaking in to my parents house while I just came home on leave from germany... got half the parts back which made the bike useless as to put back together would have cost more to put it together again than was worth to find even used parts for it...

[thesnake]

My only bad was in sleet/rain a fughead in a car whipped out in front of me, with traffic in the oopposing lane (i.e. nowhere to go). I layed her down doing about 50. My bike was fug'ed, but I still rode her the last 7 miles home stuck in gear and me bloodied/hobbled. Ahh my stupid youth...

I survived as you can see, but they totalled the bike.

[Heavy Metal]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (thesnake @ Aug. 07 2004,22:07)]My only bad was in sleet/rain a fughead in a car whipped out in front of me, with traffic in the oopposing lane (i.e. nowhere to go). I layed her down doing about 50. My bike was fug'ed, but I still rode her the last 7 miles home stuck in gear and me bloodied/hobbled. Ahh my stupid youth...

I survived as you can see, but they totalled the bike.

I figure on putting @12K to 15K on my busa a year, GF is also looking into that new Busa in 2005 or 2006 to get me... but insurance is a killer for me 1 place was 5000 the other 3800 etc.. need to find it cheaper, even though in fla if you own the bike outright you do not need insurance...

and the 04 busa is payed for in cash by her and her kids for me as a gift...

made sure it has sliders on it and bar ends and swinarm protecters...

[simplecity2houston]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (simplecity2houston @ June 11 2004,06:24)]After YEARS of wanting a motorcycle, this past April, I finally said "screw it, it's now or never". *I went to dealership A, and stated my intention to buy a Busa. *As if straight out of a cop movie, the salesman patiently talked me in off the ledge and explained to me that the Busa was a bike in a class of it's own and by nature it pretty much exceeded the capabilities of most riders. *He advised me to try a 600 for a year or so and then come back for the Busa. *It all seemed like very good advice, so I went home, slept on it, and then went to dealership B and bought the Busa. *Two months later, I can't even question the wisdom of my decision because basically there was no wisdom involved in my decision. *I'm of the opinion that the novice rider will go one of two routes on a Busa. *

Route A, he/she will recognize that it's a snarling beast and try to appease it by driving the speed limit, and treating it over-gently. *The bike will spend most of the time "cruising" instead of being ridden. *While this approach is probably safe, the problem is that you spent money to buy the cream of the crop, it burns gas like a cream of the crop sportbike, and all the consumables cost cream of the crop money. *In short, you end up wasting money by the mile because you could have saved the dollars and bought a smaller bike and done the exact same thing. *

On the other hand, Route B has the rider thoroughly over-estimating his/her skill and under-estimating the capability of the machine. *A few successful 140+ MPH runs will convince you that you're the king of the road because they come on so easily. *Fellow riders, admirers, and spectators will egg you on to further explore these capabilities long before you're ready. *The downside (if you're lucky) is that you wreck the bike and walk away. *You know the downside if you're not lucky.

Unfortunately, while I spend most times in the A category, I have taken a walk on the B side a time or two. *The good news is that as recently as today, I have considered trading it in on a smaller bike in order to spend the next year or two truly learning how to ride. *I will most likely get HAMMERED in the loss but, in the long run, I think it'll be worth it.

Also, for anybody in the same boat, if you have not done it, take the MSF class. *It will show you just how much you don't know. *My feeling is that if you're not willing to try the exercises on the bike you own, you probably have too much bike. *The instructor did all the stop, swerves, and figure 8s on a Gold Wing, so I'm sure they can be done on Busa if you have the appropriate skill.

It's August, I'm still alive, and after a summer of riding, I can safely say............ I WAS MISTAKEN!!!! This bike is "almost" better than sex. I can't imagine owning a lesser machine. I love this thing. For anybody considering a Busa as their first bike, I would give the following piece of advice: this cycle is two bikes in one. It has one personality and set of behaviors under 5000 rpm, but it turns into something totally and completely different above 5000 rpm. Make sure you are well acquainted with the Dr. Jeckyl before introducing yourself to Mr. Hyde.

[Lovestuds_]

I am a first time bike buyer. I had a scooter for awhile and jumped on a dirt bike once. i'm looking at the suzuki GS500. I fell in love with the busa the first time i saw it!!! but i would like to start with a cheaper smaller bike and work up to my dream. I love fast things, i can't get enough of speed. Its the best most relaxing thing i have found!! Had a couple of cars, now looking to get into bikes. I want to say i'v been reading this site for a long time now and you guys are the best, have been loads of help.

I was wondering what you guys thought of going from the GS500 to the busa or would it be better to get an in between bike first or is it mostly just what i feel confertable with?

[FLCN72]

Suzuki reworked the GS500 recently and made it much more modern looking. But it remains a small, light bike that is easy to ride. I'd say if you really insist on a bike with plastic fairings, then the GS500 is a good first step. There are other good bikes described here: http://www.beginnerbikes.com/index.html

From a suitable first bike to a Busa is a big step. But it can be done and done well with the right rider. It becomes a matter of learning as much as possible when riding the more forgiving bike -- getting all the fundamentals committed to memory so well they are automatic. And a healthy dose of good judgement doesn't hurt either.

[Lovestuds_]

yeah i'm looking at the 2001. its before they started putting all the plastic on.
So just move up to whatever i feel confertable at. take a few for a spin see what feels right for my skill level. cool cool

[thesnake]

he said it.

[MeltDownZ]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Lovestuds_ @ Aug. 10 2004,12:00)]i can't get enough of speed.

I was wondering what you guys thought of going from the GS500 to the busa or would it be better to get an in between bike first or is it mostly just what i feel confertable with?

Can't get enough speed aye? That's not really a problem with the busa. The limiting factor becomes your freak-out capacity and not the bikes ability to deliver. You turn the throttle and it gives, and gives, and gives, until you break out into a cold sweat.

Going from a GS500 to a busa is a giant leap. I would recommend a GSX-R 600 ro 750 first. However, on either of these bikes, the busa included, you're going to have to have an entirely new level of respect for the bike. Not so much just cruising around, but, definetly when your starting to lean into the bikes powerband. If you go right to the busa, it will be years before you ever tap the bikes capacity - if ever. You've got a much better chance of doing that on a 600 and maybe a 750. On the street with the busa, all curves need to be treated with the utmost care. And, you'll be tempted to take every little opportunity to pull some of that great acceleration. So, you'll need to be a lot more capable of judging your speed and braking in stressful situations. Really, you may have a lot more fun on a smaller GSX-R because you can relax and drive where on the busa you've got to baby the throttle quite a bit.

[thesnake]

Meltdown, I agree with most everythnig you said. But I wouldn't say that a gsrx is a tame ride-- it also requires some conservative throttle action.

[MeltDownZ]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (thesnake @ Aug. 12 2004,20:24)]Meltdown, I agree with most everythnig you said. But I wouldn't say that a gsrx is a tame ride-- it also requires some conservative throttle action.

I did say, "However, on either of these bikes, the busa included, you're going to have to have an entirely new level of respect for the bike." - I thought that kind of said it.

[Lovestuds_]

That sounds better. I just love the busa for its looks and its power and the respect that you have to have for it. By driving it it says you are on a different level of riding. I baby anything that i start to drive. I normaly take a good month or so with a car before i really start pushing it. Bikes would be no different, maybe even longer when getting on a new bike. I worry to much about hurting me and the machine to run out and do something stupid. But i like the advise. i had planned on going through a few bikes before i get to the busa, but i just WANT IT SO BADLY!!!! =) but its just going to have to wait :'( But i'm sure i'll enjoy it much better if i work up to it. thanks for the posts

[alexis2400]

Hi everyone:
Here is my story, I have been ridding since I was 8, now 30, I had a 2000 busa, sold it about 3 month ago, bought a 2001 gsxr1000 (sorry guys) and love it, it is much harder to ride than the busa, it power delivery is not for the begginer, the power curve is like a two stroke, the busa is much more linear. Also new ridders can learn on the bike as long as they don't ride faster than their limits, example, I had a zx7 back in 99 and almost no busa rider could keep up with me (the bike had only 148hp with a 25 nitrous shot), and riders without experience were left in the dust, what I mean is if you ride like within your limits you will fing the busa as a very forgiving bike as opposed to a zx10, gsxr 1000 or r1.
Thanks and be safe

[rubbersidedown]

buy 1.....ride it......if you live.....thats gr8....if you die.....


I NEED THE PARTS.....


hav a will-free 1......RSD.

[Relsek]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Lovestuds_ @ Aug. 10 2004,07:00)]I am a first time bike buyer. I had a scooter for awhile and jumped on a dirt bike once. i'm looking at the suzuki GS500. I fell in love with the busa the first time i saw it!!! but i would like to start with a cheaper smaller bike and work up to my dream. I love fast things, i can't get enough of speed. Its the best most relaxing thing i have found!! Had a couple of cars, now looking to get into bikes. I want to say i'v been reading this site for a long time now and you guys are the best, have been loads of help.

I was wondering what you guys thought of going from the GS500 to the busa or would it be better to get an in between bike first or is it mostly just what i feel confertable with?

Yeah lovestuds, I could see you on the gs500,

I'm thinking about getting one of those for my wife and painting it to match my busa.

[Turbo-Torch]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (rubbersidedown @ Aug. 23 2004,04:16)]buy 1.....ride it......if you live.....thats gr8....if you die.....


* I NEED THE PARTS.....


* * hav a will-free 1......RSD.

Sure but then you end up with haunted parts. It's a 100% proven fact.

[rubbersidedown]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Turbo-Torch @ Aug. 23 2004,18:34)]

Sure but then you end up with haunted parts. *It's a 100% proven fact.

really ?

I was hoping for a ....less spiritual type of part....

not quite heatheness....but somewhat spiritual-less.


hav a Casper-free 1.....RSD.

[Power225]

Hi. I've been riding for about 4 or 5 years, and want your opinions on wether or not you guys think the busa is right for me. My first bike was a TTR125L, which I rode for about a year. My second bike was a YZ250F motocross bike wich I rode for about a year and half. And my third bike, and bike I still own is a YZ450F motocross bike. I ride at the local motocross track every weekend. I have owned this bike for about a year also. I've also rode friends bikes and quads including RM85, KX100, KX125, Honda scooter, 400EX, Blaster, Banshee, CR250R, and probably a couple others I don't remember. My favorite part about riding has always been going fast in a straight line. My plan for the busa was to practice on it for a little while, and then mainly use it for running the quarter mile at the track.