BEWARE FosterRad - Laser Exhaust I got screwed!

[mdfdbusa]

Originally Posted by Hectic

Who here has actually heard of this exhaust system?

Hectic - that was one of the things that attracted me to Laser exhaust systems. It looks a little different from the other BK exhausts out there...The B-King does not have as many options for exhausts (relatively speaking), but they are growing. The Laser Xtreme has the quad pipe styling similar to the exhaust of an MV Agusta F4 pictured below:


Here is one on the B-King:



I am trying to not let Robert Foster/FosterRad taint my opinion of the technical qualities of the exhaust system...

[outlawbusa]

Originally Posted by Taylor

keep all these post and send them to them, loosing customer after customer just by screwing over one, keep spreading the word

I've seen it work before...email them a link to this thread, or copy it an email it to them~!~ (I'd do both)


That is one tough looking exhaust~!~

[NickSully]

Well this whole situation sucks for you. Have you called the CC company yet to dispute the charge?

Good luck with it all.

[ThorspeedFRK]

Originally Posted by mdfdbusa

I just had a horrible experience and wanted to warn you folks. I understand your experience may vary, but this has just been mine. Best of luck!

Just wanted to warn you folks - Robert Foster of FosterRad who sells the Laser exhaust, FRK power module, and a few other stuff has screwed me. They do not keep their word and promises! Please pass this along to your friends so they won't get screwed too...

OK, so I deal with alot of vendors and dealers for all sorts of parts and stuff. I also write product reviews and try to be fair and judicious with my reviews. I want to post this to serve as a warning so no one else gets screwed like I did...

I ordered a set of Laser Xtreme exhausts back on July '09, same day as when I bought my B-King. At the time I contacted Dr. Robert Foster, one of the owners of FosterRad who sells Laser exhausts. At that time I talked to Dr. Foster about the Laser Xtreme exhaust for the B-King. He told me he had 3 systems being shipped to him and mine would be part of that 3. He indicated it was enroute and would be two weeks to get it. I made a deal with him to order the exhaust. I went a step further and connected him to a dealer who would potentially be interested in being a distributor, carrying the line of Laser exhausts for him/FosterRad. As an exercise to ensure the logistics were proven out, we agreed that I would order from my dealer who would in turn order direct from FosterRad. When I asked Dr. Foster if he would rather I order directly from him, he indicated that it would be fine to order thru my dealer.

Well, the 2 weeks went by and I hear nothing. I contacted my dealer who indicated that they had already placed the order and given their credit card info to FosterRad. They encouraged me to keep in close contact with FosterRad, as well as themselves.


7/23/09: placed order and paid $658.58

8/4/09: I called FosterRad and left a message. I heard nothing back. I sent an email to make sure everything was set and inquiring as to status of my order and heard nothing back.

8/11/09: 2 weeks have come and passed. I called FosterRad and got Denice, Dr. Foster's secretary who told me Dr. Foster was unavailable. After explaining that I just wanted to make sure my order was placed, she directs me to Dr. Foster. He indicated that everything was ok and it will be just another couple of days or so...they would call me back next day to confirm..

8/12/09: I hear nothing back from FosterRad. I figure they were busy and give them a couple of days..

8/14/09: I call FosterRad and speak with Dr. Foster. He tells me he is speaking with Laser exhaust and they will receive shipment in another 2 weeks max and that I will get mine definitely by 9/15/09. They told me they will call me in a couple of days.

8/17/09: I call FosterRad to see if everything was in order. They say yes and they will call me in a few days.

8/24/09: I hear nothing so I call and insist on talking to Dr. Foster. I explain to him that I have been waiting on this exhaust to do a product review and have been working hard to possibly line up a spot on a publication to review his product. The window has closed several times and my promises and credibility is suffering. He says he understands and will make it right to me. Offers to hook me up on their new FRK Power module. I say whatever, I just need the exhaust as promised and that I have already paid since July. He says he will make it right and says he will call Laser right away.
10 minutes later Dr. Foster calls me back and says the exhaust should be to me no later than 9/15/09. He says he will call back in a couple of days.

9/10/09: I hear nothing from them so I send email inquiry, summarizing what we last talked about. I hear nothing back...

9/15/09: deadine is here, I have received nothing. I call FosterRad and leave message. I hear nothing back.

9/21/09: I call and get John at FosterRad. He says he is aware of my situation and it should arrive in a couple of weeks. He will call me back.

nothing....

10/1/09: I get a call back from John. He is nervous and says he will connect me to Dr. Foster. Dr. Foster gets on and has a big attitude. He tells me that this is a highly sought after exhaust and that he is doing me a favor by letting me buy this. He says it's no big deal to him as he can turn around and sell it to the next customer quickly. He asks me if I still want the exhaust. I said yes, just please give me a firm credible date as to when I can really get it. He dodges the question and says well the euro has gone up and you now need to pay $764.93.
I said but I already paid the agreed to price back in July. He says he has no record of payment and tells me if I want it that's how much I need to pay, stating that people all over the world have a high demand for this exhaust and that it would be sold to the next person easily.
I figured I waited this long, fine. I agreed to the new price and said that I was not happy with this. I stated that if he could understand my "heartburn" over the matter of getting bogus dates and being strung along this long, not getting any response to my inquiries and that I had to basically hound them thru the last several months just to get an answer. He interrupts me and says he is a "doctor" and there is no "heartburn" as this is business, trying to be a smartazz. I said ok, do the deal but I will definitely make this experience known. He says, if that's the case then you get no exhaust and we have no deal. I say I will just relay the experience as it happened as that is the truth. He says you have nothing to prove it and hangs up on me...

So here I am on 10/1/09, after having placed my order 7/23/09 and paid for it. I am currently scrambling to try and get my money back on my credit card...

Be warned, FosterRad is a scam! I posted some inquiries on a few other forums and guess what? Apparently there has been numerous instances similar to this on other forums/bike circles...

Hello mdfdbusa,

Please post any documentation regarding your purchase through my company the Foster Group.

We were never paid and you and your dealer both know that. Specifically, the credit card proffered by your dealer was declined. We don't send anything out for free no matter how much you threatened us with posts like this.

Additionally, your story about being a journalist with Motorcyclist Magazine on assignment did not prove true when the managing editor was contacted.

Prove that my company got paid and post it here!!!

I await your documentation.

It is unfortunate that your dealer was not forthright, you would've really enjoyed our product.

Should this continue we will have no choice but to seek remedy as prescribed by law.

Thank you for this opportunity.

Dr. Juan Delgato, MD
Director
Foster Performance Group
Sales@FosterRAD.com
718.468.4680

[MET]

Amen to that. I am amazed how often we do not use or sponsors and then get stung by others.

I did ask FosterRad if they would care to respond to this thread.

Originally Posted by GIXERTP

Just an FYI, Starcycle has been in business for years, and i talk to them often, they are not going any where!

Also use a sponsor next time, sometimes it's really not worth save a a few bucks!

[Boyer]

I do not wish what you are going through on my worst enemy. What ever happened to the customer is always right. You are in my prayers. Good luck and God speed

[KappaSigBusa]

hope you get this all sorted out that exhaust look killer on a BKing

[GoldenChild]

Originally Posted by Mr Bogus

I have dealt with Daniel on a few items...

He does not toot his own horn too often but should..

No Need To Toot When Others Keep Coming Back With Bigger Horns,Cause They Money Starting To Look Like Swiss Cheese....I don't like alot of attention honestly....

[mdfdbusa]

again with the threats...this is a pattern, read carefully my original post everything is true. You all seem to have selective memory and listening...see my responses to your jibberish below:

Originally Posted by ThorspeedFRK

Hello mdfdbusa,

Please post any documentation regarding your purchase through my company the Foster Group.

We were never paid and you and your dealer both know that.
Like I said in my original post. The deal was that I go through my local dealer. I paid them and have a receipt. They in turn ordered directly to you at FosterRad. They provided you with their purchase order/credit card back in July. If this agreement never existed, why on God's earth would you continue to talk to me and make promises in the course of three months? If there was never any agreement, why would you bother to continue telling me it will be here in two weeks, then next week, then seven to ten days, and on and on from July '09 to October '09?

Specifically, the credit card proffered by your dealer was declined.
First of all, do you agree with all the correspondence as I documented in the original post? Lotta stuff to make up if you think it is fictional huh? If you concede that the correspondence did take place, then if the credit card was declined, then why is it that you never contacted them or me about it? Even after the numerous conversations and correspondence as noted, why is it that this never ever came up? Even after I asked if everything was in order and to let me know if there are any issues everytime we corresponded? And yes, I do have all my documentation, but you never responded in writing did you?

We don't send anything out for free no matter how much you threatened us with posts like this.
I never asked for anything for free. As far as threats, I make none. As I said in our conversation (that you said was being recorded at the end, pls play it for all the world to hear), if relaying the experience as it happened is a threat to you, then perhaps you should revisit how you treat customers? You can tell by the numerous responses in the many forums that your treatment of customers like this is NOT uncommon. These are from people I have never met and are cases of your abuse in totally independent situations. How about you address that?

Additionally, your story about being a journalist with Motorcyclist Magazine on assignment did not prove true when the managing editor was contacted.
Motorcyclist Magazine?!? WTF? Now you guys are fabricating stuff. I told you that I was trying to line up a review spot on a sportbike magazine which is true. I was not successful because everytime I gave a commitment on when I will have the product from FosterRad, you guys kept breaking your promises and continued lying and stringing me along. You mentioned you had recorded our phone conversation. Please replay it and let's have the truth come out.





Prove that my company got paid and post it here!!!


I await your documentation.
This is very a very uncanny resemblance to how your attitude was with the BMW guys. You twist the truth and make false statements and accusations to muddy the water. Truth is, you strung me along. You told me to pay thru my local dealer which I did and have a receipt for thru them. I'm confident that I will get my money back as they promised me they will put it back on my credit card. The issue is FosterRad and Robert Foster's way of treating human beings. Address that one, as it seems to be a common complaint on many forums....

It is unfortunate that your dealer was not forthright, you would've really enjoyed our product.
I happen to know two owners of my local dealership. When I called them up to tell them about this they indicated they will do everything they can to either get me another exhaust for what I paid or refund the money on my credit card. Their word is good, unlike FosterRad's....
as far as enjoying "your product", you are thinking bigger than you actually are, let's leave it at that. I don't know too many people wanting to take a chance with their hard-earned money on outfit like yours, too many other good options...does Laser HQ in the Netherlands know about your conduct with their products?

Should this continue we will have no choice but to seek remedy as prescribed by law.
Bring it! If your knowledge of the law is as expansive as your self-proclaimed "doctor", then I have nothing to worry about....


Thank you for this opportunity.

Dr. Juan Delgato, MD
Director
Foster Performance Group
Sales@FosterRAD.com
718.468.4680

Here's another interesting fact. Could it be the person named "John" that I posted in my original thread is apparently named Juan. Dunno, cuz he told me he was just an inventory person... If these two folks are actually the same person, then he was actually a nice guy and actually came off as understanding at the previous times. If it's not the same person, then I have never met/dealt with this Juan guy so how does he know the facts? Where is his credibility? Mr. Robert Foster, is this really you just posing as Juan?!?!
It's Robert Foster that was always the one that was never really listening or addressing my concerns, always making broken promises... Too bad Juan let his own name get mixed up in this.....maybe this would have turned out differently if someone other than Robert Foster handled this...dunno, but it couldn't of been any worse...IMHO Robert Foster just possesses no people/listening/business skills whatsoever....
And here goes again with the "M.D.". Here's a clue....if you want respect, give it and earn it. A title does very little when your actions sabotage what little respect you've earned. Yeah, I have a title too. It's called "Customer" and my suffic is "Quit Screwing the Customer"....
Too bad that you revert to "prove it" as your only defense. Fact is the money will be returned. Even if not, it will be forgotten about over time. Your way of treating the Customer will never be forgotten...

[MET]

Well at least you are using the CHEDDAR AND NOT THE SWISS. Keep up the good job.

Originally Posted by GoldenChild

No Need To Toot When Others Keep Coming Back With Bigger Horns,Cause They Money Starting To Look Like Swiss Cheese....I don't like alot of attention honestly....

[Dino]

[BBB]

[ThorspeedFRK]

Originally Posted by MET

Amen to that. I am amazed how ofted we do not use or sponsors and then get stung by others.

I did ask FosterRad id they would care to respond to this thread.

Hello MET,

Thank you for your E-mail.

As you see above we have responded.

The challenge to this fabricator is to post documentation proving that my company got paid.

Thanks again,

Dr. Juan Delgato, MD
Director
Foster Performance Group
Sales@FosterRAD.com
718.468.4680

[lavinrac]

Im with Dino. Pass the

[BBB]

I know. I keep clicking back on this one like I'd flip channels watching TV.

[VaBusa]

Don't want this thread to become a public hashing out of differences. I trust the two parties can work this out like adults and in the end, everyone will walk away happy. I know everyone's eager to see the outcome, but in the end this is a business deal and not a train wreck. Please be respectful.

[Dino]

Originally Posted by lavinrac

Im with Dino. Pass the

Lav Dino

[mdfdbusa]

ok, so is this Juan, John, or Robert Foster? Too many doctors in the house I guess...

Again, the challenge is for you to address ALL the lies, broken promises, and stringing along that you did to me and apparently do to others as a norm...

As I said before, I paid my local dealer. We had an implied agreement that was very clear as proven and acknowledged by the very fact that you engaged in making repeated promises, however unfulfilled, to me over the course of three months...

Here's a free lesson on being a good business...oh hell forget that. how about just being a good human being....Be honest and upfront. Don't make promises you can't keep. When you are wrong, admit it, address it, try your best to make the wrong a right, and move on. These principles make alot of sense and should not be contingent upon having to prove if you got paid nor does it give you an option to not follow just because you think you have a lock on the "hottest, in-demand" product.... Your actions blemish the Laser line of products, just as it did the many other products you have tainted in the other forums and dealings with other folks...

Originally Posted by ThorspeedFRK

Hello MET,

Thank you for your E-mail.

As you see above we have responded.

The challenge to this fabricator is to post documentation proving that my company got paid.

Thanks again,

Dr. Juan Delgato, MD
Director
Foster Performance Group
Sales@FosterRAD.com
718.468.4680

[mdfdbusa]

pls pass it this way and I'll pass the lol

Originally Posted by Dino

Lav Dino

[Dino]