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Old 09-09-2009, 02:16 PM
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For the last year I have been testing Maxima's Octane Booster. This stuff actually works, properly mapped. Our testing included using various AFR's with and without timing, various spark plugs CR9EK up to CR10EK and CR9EIX (heat ring) readings, motor tear downs and so forth all things are GOOD!


We have tested this additive with the following applications with success and in three cases over 6,000 miles on bikes where higher octane levels are required..:


211 HP 1397 MOTOR Suzuki Hayabusa (TRACK)
290 HP Turbo Hayabusa (STREET)
330 HP Turbo ZX-14 (STREET/TRACK)
220 HP 1531 Stroker (STREET)
14:1 High Compression STOCK bore Motor (STREET/TRACK)
350 HP Campagna T-Rex (STREET/TRACK)
240 HP 60 Shot of NOS on a GEN II Hayabusa (STREET/TRACK)

We have tested several mixing ratios and have several combinations that are positively known to work. Mixed properly to our specs you can save yourself some change on RACE fuel for sure and have the added security of stronger-higher octane levels and a clear reduction in the likely hood of detonation with a proper tune for the application it is used for. (1) bottle treats about a 5 gallon gas can at $6.99 per bottle...thats cheap racing. We have bottles, cases and a OZ mixer for the percise ratio's we recommend. All the above information is factual no guess work used.


Maxima Hi-Test is a concentrated octane booster legal for all types of competition. Hi-Test is an all organic product containing no metal (lead, manganes or phosphorus) compounds. It readily mixes with all gasolines as well as alcohol and nitro mixtures. Hi-Test will suppress detonation and pre-ignition by modifying the burn rate and increasing the auto-ignition temperature of the air/fuel mixture. The use of Hi-Test in your gasoline will eliminate “pinging” and “knocking” and the potentially destructive results of them. It will allow for higher compression ratios and therefore more horsepower. Hi-Test should be used in concentrations of one to four ounces per gallon of gasoline. One ounce per gallon raises the effective octane number approximately four points, depending on the base gasoline octane. For racing or very high compression engines, or very low quality fuel, higher concentrations of Hi-Test may be required.

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Tofas2c was telling me about this when he got back from your shop the other day. Sounds like really good stuff.

I was unclear if I should be running it with my set up or not...will you be bringing some to Maxton with you~?~

I am thinking with the MR9 that it wouldn't hurt to pull up the octane level just a bit...

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Old 09-09-2009, 02:21 PM
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Tofas2c was telling me about this when he got back from your dyno the other day. Sounds like good stuff.

I was unclear if I should be running it with my set up or not...will you be bringing some to Maxton with you~?~
Always have a few bottles with me.
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Old 09-09-2009, 02:31 PM
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14:1 High Compression STOCK bore Motor (STREET/TRACK)

What goes into this build and how much HP gain~?~

Sorry to go sideways...can PM if you'd rather~!~

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Old 09-09-2009, 02:37 PM
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14:1 High Compression STOCK bore Motor (STREET/TRACK)

What goes into this build and how much HP gain~?~

Sorry to go sideways...can PM if you'd rather~!~
I will PM.
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Old 09-09-2009, 02:47 PM
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Stuffs works great with NOS as well...
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Old 09-09-2009, 05:54 PM
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I forgot this turbo test pilot as well...


"Works excellent! I'm at 320 hp at 208 pounds of torque with 91 pump gas"
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Old 09-10-2009, 04:14 AM
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It there any advantage using this in a stock Gen II?

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Old 09-10-2009, 07:41 AM
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It there any advantage using this in a stock Gen II?
I have not tested it on a purely stock bike yet.

In theory if you are running a leaned out map as some do or a full system with no additional tuning it will help to prevent detonation and the fatten up the stock map some via the adjustment in burn rate based on your mix. To say you will pick up 3-5 HP on a stock bike would be a guess. Something I don't do.
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Old 09-11-2009, 05:26 AM
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Gotcha thanks.

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Old 09-27-2009, 08:22 AM
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Greg,

All we have(usually anyway)out here in CA at the pump is sucky 91 octane and even with an 11.4-11.8 A/FR(and stock motor/ compression)ended up melting 3 out of 4 pistons this spring with a Stage 1.Just had the motor rebuilt 2 months ago(pistons[coated],rods,bearings,all new valves[head ported while it was down],etc. and ran a double base gasket which i understand should drop the compression maybe a few 10 'ths,and keeping the A/FR around 11.4.I've never done any top end runs and only occasionally will roll it on from 2nd through 5th or 6th and then get right out of it for fear of melting it again.I know i should probably at least run water injection but not in the budget right at the moment so if this additive will help i'll definitely take a case or 2.From what i understand i'm guessing i'd have to add a full 16oz. bottle to 4 gals. of 91 octane to end up with just under a 93 octane which may be just enough to keep my motor from being damaged again?I've also been told not to use anything with lead in it so as not to damage my o2 sensor(AEM wideband)and since this stuff contains none i should be ok?

Thanks(and sorry about the lengthy post!),
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Old 09-27-2009, 09:56 AM
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Greg,

All we have(usually anyway)out here in CA at the pump is sucky 91 octane and even with an 11.4-11.8 A/FR(and stock motor/ compression)ended up melting 3 out of 4 pistons this spring with a Stage 1.Just had the motor rebuilt 2 months ago(pistons[coated],rods,bearings,all new valves[head ported while it was down],etc. and ran a double base gasket which i understand should drop the compression maybe a few 10 'ths,and keeping the A/FR around 11.4.I've never done any top end runs and only occasionally will roll it on from 2nd through 5th or 6th and then get right out of it for fear of melting it again.I know i should probably at least run water injection but not in the budget right at the moment so if this additive will help i'll definitely take a case or 2.From what i understand i'm guessing i'd have to add a full 16oz. bottle to 4 gals. of 91 octane to end up with just under a 93 octane which may be just enough to keep my motor from being damaged again?I've also been told not to use anything with lead in it so as not to damage my o2 sensor(AEM wideband)and since this stuff contains none i should be ok?

Thanks(and sorry about the lengthy post!),
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If you are starting with 91 pump gas. I would add 3 ounces per gallon of gas. Three ounces is about 12 points. 12 Points on your 91 is about 103 octane. Just mix it the same way all the time.
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Any more info on using it in a stock Gen2...what can you get HP wise with a pipe, PC, air filter, custom map...etc and the additive

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Any more info on using it in a stock Gen2...what can you get HP wise with a pipe, PC, air filter, custom map...etc and the additive
I actually tried it last week, I did not post the results because I personally was not totally convinced that the tire did not grip better on the dyno. Something you see with strapping a bike a little harder sometimes when there is light wheel spin.

I saw a 2 foot pound gain in torque but as stated I was not totally convinced, so I did not feel good enough about the change. I try to post stuff I feel solid about. Used 2 0z. per gallon ratio.

Did not see a power loss so thats a good thing something I was concerned about with higher octane levels and stock compression.

Since I do push it as a power adder, I did not give it much more of my time. The goal is the additional protection from detonation.
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A point value of additive is .1 not 1.0. With that, it would bring 91 fuel to 92.2, not 112.0. Points are measured in tenths...........
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A point value of additive is .1 not 1.0. With that, it would bring 91 fuel to 92.2, not 112.0. Points are measured in tenths...........
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Greg,

All we have(usually anyway)out here in CA at the pump is sucky 91 octane and even with an 11.4-11.8 A/FR(and stock motor/ compression)ended up melting 3 out of 4 pistons this spring with a Stage 1.Just had the motor rebuilt 2 months ago(pistons[coated],rods,bearings,all new valves[head ported while it was down],etc. and ran a double base gasket which i understand should drop the compression maybe a few 10 'ths,and keeping the A/FR around 11.4.I've never done any top end runs and only occasionally will roll it on from 2nd through 5th or 6th and then get right out of it for fear of melting it again.I know i should probably at least run water injection but not in the budget right at the moment so if this additive will help i'll definitely take a case or 2.From what i understand i'm guessing i'd have to add a full 16oz. bottle to 4 gals. of 91 octane to end up with just under a 93 octane which may be just enough to keep my motor from being damaged again?I've also been told not to use anything with lead in it so as not to damage my o2 sensor(AEM wideband)and since this stuff contains none i should be ok?

Thanks(and sorry about the lengthy post!),
Jeff
Jeff,I think you may want to look at your setup cause something else is happening besides the 91 octane gas..How mch boost were you running?...I would step back and read what you said,you melted 3 of 4 pistons and your a/f was good,so something else happened to melt them not the fuel.I ask could they have been damaged as your setup was being tuned and ran lean?who's kit?How many times did it go lean setting it up?how long after install did you have a failure?..just my 2 cents bro...Safe riding..

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Old 09-27-2009, 12:59 PM
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A point value of additive is .1 not 1.0. With that, it would bring 91 fuel to 92.2, not 112.0. Points are measured in tenths...........
Actually you are correct. Thanks for the clarification but when dealing with the MON and AKI rating of fuel the numbers don't work the same Wikipedia has a ton of info listed there..

I will see if the Maxima rep can re-explain how this additive alters to MON and AKI ratings. The increased AKI* rating is our anti-detonation friend.

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